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| Quote Stu M="Stu M"Good signing. Its fair to say that Wigan will have the best 1-5 in the comp next year. Interesting season ahead.'"
Yet not one of them has been chosen to play in the World Cup, it just confirms the standard of Super League.
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| I think this is a fabulous bit of business.
It seems every SL team was after his signature and we've been after him for years.
I thought that when we got King, that it effectively meant Wardle was going elsewhere and we'd had to move to the changing conditions.
To get them both, I'm made up and cant wait for next year....
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| Quote ChrisA="ChrisA"Very happy with this, two centres that can create space for their wingers, two wingers that can finish, a fullback that can do anything and two very good creative halves.
I feel a little light headed.'"
Just a shame about the Hooker
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| Quote The Whiffy Kipper="The Whiffy Kipper"Just a shame about the Hooker'"
What's wrong with Brad O'Neill?
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| Quote Egg Chasing="Egg Chasing"What's wrong with Brad O'Neill?'"
Well he seems to be a decent distributor of the ball, but he's not the running dummy-half that many seemed to want,
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| Quote moto748="moto748"Well he seems to be a decent distributor of the ball, but he's not the running dummy-half that many seemed to want,'"
Probably needs to shed a few pounds too if he is to become just that.
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| Quote moto748="moto748"Well he seems to be a decent distributor of the ball, but he's not the running dummy-half that many seemed to want,'"
Is that because of his style or because of coaching staff instructions?
He did make more runs from dummy half than Powell but it wasn’t a massive difference. His buggiest ability was his link with forwards being able to it the line at speed, at good angles and on the gain line.
A quick look on super league website tells you he had the 7th highest average gain from 23 dummy runs.
Unsure on his minutes but the top two are Parcell and Levi in the 170s and 160s, Powell is 18th highest with 38.
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| Quote nathan_rugby="nathan_rugby"Is that because of his style or because of coaching staff instructions?
He did make more runs from dummy half than Powell but it wasn’t a massive difference. His buggiest ability was his link with forwards being able to it the line at speed, at good angles and on the gain line.
A quick look on super league website tells you he had the 7th highest average gain from 23 dummy runs.
Unsure on his minutes but the top two are Parcell and Levi in the 170s and 160s, Powell is 18th highest with 38.'"
Out of interest where was Roby? (Best hooker in the league for the champions) perhaps there are more ways to play 9 and scooting from dummy half isnt as important as made out on here to criticise Powell????
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| Quote bazdev="bazdev"Out of interest where was Roby? (Best hooker in the league for the champions) perhaps there are more ways to play 9 and scooting from dummy half isnt as important as made out on here to criticise Powell????'"
In his first year under Lam, Powell scooted more and with effect so I would say there is definitely a coaching/tactical element to it.
I think a scooting hooker has the ability to change the game up particularly when introduced off the bench, however lads like Dwyer generally give no direction to the team.
I’m not a fan of a “scooting” 9 and I personally believe the best 9s have the control around the ruck and give the team direction, but also have the ability to scoot at the right time and are able to identify that.
Roby is a great example of that. When he started out it was predominately as a scooting foil for Cunningham. His game has adapted to the master 9 he has become.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"In his first year under Lam, Powell scooted more and with effect so I would say there is definitely a coaching/tactical element to it.
I think a scooting hooker has the ability to change the game up particularly when introduced off the bench, however lads like Dwyer generally give no direction to the team.
I’m not a fan of a “scooting” 9 and I personally believe the best 9s have the control around the ruck and give the team direction, but also have the ability to scoot at the right time and are able to identify that.
Roby is a great example of that. When he started out it was predominately as a scooting foil for Cunningham. His game has adapted to the master 9 he has become.'"
I don't think coaching, or tactics should come into it that much.
Or if it does, then the coach is a fool and it's worrying.
Take Cameron Smith as a perfect example, I doubt he ever topped a chart for any key hooker stats in his career. However, he more often than not, took the right option at the right time - whether that be running, passing or kicking. No coach should be telling an all rounder to not do something i.e.do not scoot etc.
The best players repeatedly do it all. If they see a marker offside, they run at them. If they see an opportunity for quick ball then they spread it and if they see an opportunity to kick, they execute it. That's what separates them from the rest. Why would a coach want anything different?
O'Neill for me "arrived" properly Vs Saints at home. He ran, distributed and controlled the game well. All he needs is more time on the pitch to recognise different scenarios and how to react.
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| Quote bazdev="bazdev"Out of interest where was Roby? (Best hooker in the league for the champions) perhaps there are more ways to play 9 and scooting from dummy half isnt as important as made out on here to criticise Powell????'"
Roby 9th and Lussick 10th. Both with double Powell.
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| Quote sergeant pepper="sergeant pepper"I don't think coaching, or tactics should come into it that much.
Or if it does, then the coach is a fool and it's worrying.
Take Cameron Smith as a perfect example, I doubt he ever topped a chart for any key hooker stats in his career. However, he more often than not, took the right option at the right time - whether that be running, passing or kicking. No coach should be telling an all rounder to not do something i.e.do not scoot etc.
The best players repeatedly do it all. If they see a marker offside, they run at them. If they see an opportunity for quick ball then they spread it and if they see an opportunity to kick, they execute it. That's what separates them from the rest. Why would a coach want anything different?
O'Neill for me "arrived" properly Vs Saints at home. He ran, distributed and controlled the game well. All he needs is more time on the pitch to recognise different scenarios and how to react.'"
You're right. A good hooker (and a 7 and 6 tbf) should play what is in front of them.
An element of coaching will always come into it though because they will have a specific way that they want the team to play at certain parts of the game and in certain circumstances.
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