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| Quote Pie Eyed="Pie Eyed"I was in the bar last week, but didn't hear anything that I would call "abuse".
TBH - Kris invited the comments by announcing that he would take questions.
After a loss like that, what did he think was going to happen?
The only people who were ever going to question him were bound to be annoyed and disgruntled.
As far as I recall, he was pulled up on whether the club were training the players corrcetly and he got himself into a near argument in trying to defend the club.
Sorry to say this, but I think Kris was a best niaive and at worst downright stupid to invite questions when emotions were clearly running high, and then to compound the issue by acting like a whiny little girl and punish several hundred fans over comments that he opened himself up to.
I appreciate the work that Kris does, especially after each game with the fans, but I have to say that he needs to grow up, stop whining and get on with the job.
If he wants to issue a "warning" next time he's in the bar, fine.
Maybe a better idea would be that if you can't handle criticism (as he obviously can't) - DON'T INVITE IT.'"
That is exactly how I saw it too. I think Kris has really let himself down over this.
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| Quote Boudicca="Boudicca"I agree with Pie-Eyed and Miggy. Like them, I was there last week. Yes, some people should be more measured and not panic after a loss like that, but yes, Kris did invite questions and therefore should have been prepared for OTT moaning from some people. He's been at Wigan all his life, he knows how some people get when we lose. Most fans last week were very suportive, applauded Kris and Jeff for their determination that the team would be better than that in future, and I heard people thank Kris for coming in as he left.
Kris has been naive and a bit precious and frankly has created an issue unnecessarily by banning any player presence last night. He should have got Gerry to issue a friendly warning and sent a player in with one of the other two people whose role will include SS bar appearances this year, Andy Coley or Paul Deacon, just to cool things off. In fact, if Kris is going to be on the defensive so much maybe it would be better if he let one of the other two do it for a few weeks.
I adore Kris Rads but that doesn't mean he can do no wrong. Talk about a storm in a teacup!'"
I was there also and agree with you, there was no personal abuse whilst he was on the stage just a couple of questions "which were invited" from people who quite rightly were disappointed,I bet there was a lot worse said in the dressing room.
I can only "guess" that something else was said off stage.
Pity no one came in last night they would have got a great welcome.
Communication breakdown come on Wigan sort it and lets get back on track.
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| How was the SS bar on Saturday?
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| Fine until we were told that no player was coming in, then VERY empty, VERY quickly.
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| Quote Boudicca="Boudicca"I agree with Pie-Eyed and Miggy. Like them, I was there last week. Yes, some people should be more measured and not panic after a loss like that, but yes, Kris did invite questions and therefore should have been prepared for OTT moaning from some people. He's been at Wigan all his life, he knows how some people get when we lose. Most fans last week were very suportive, applauded Kris and Jeff for their determination that the team would be better than that in future, and I heard people thank Kris for coming in as he left.
Kris has been naive and a bit precious and frankly has created an issue unnecessarily by banning any player presence last night. He should have got Gerry to issue a friendly warning and sent a player in with one of the other two people whose role will include SS bar appearances this year, Andy Coley or Paul Deacon, just to cool things off. In fact, if Kris is going to be on the defensive so much maybe it would be better if he let one of the other two do it for a few weeks.
I adore Kris Rads but that doesn't mean he can do no wrong. Talk about a storm in a teacup!'"
As soon as Kris said he would take any questions from the floor I though that he was asking for trouble. Unless he got extra grief when he walking off stage then it does seem like an over reaction. The questions asked were reasonable, but a bit of an over reaction on the fans part (certainly nowhere near as bad as the stuff on here). I think KR has to mark it down to experience. He's a very confident and articulate public speaker who wears his heart on his sleeve, but facing a 'hostile' audience is something you can only learn by actually doing it. It does seem that he's punishing the vast majority of us because he put himself in a situation that he absolutely didn't need to.
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| I've emailed the club with my comments about this:
[iI'm contacting you about the South Stand bar after home games, and asking why Kris and a player are not coming into the bar any more as they did last season. I am aware that some people who were in there after the first home game may have been bit over the top in their treatment of Kris when he said he'd answer questions, however I don't see this as a reason to stop him and a player coming in after games. There are many people who go into the bar after games, particularly youngsters who love to get autographs and photos with players and they will be very disappointed not to be able to do this any more. A minority should not be allowed to spoil things for the majority, that isn't fair.
Also, there is usually a fair amount raised by the Riversiders raffle in the bar after games, which may be considerably reduced if people stop going in because there is no incentive to go in if no players are there. That will affect the Academy, which is a shame as the money raised in the SS Bar helps them.
Please don't let the actions of a small minority of fans spoil things for the majority, we all want the best for the club and we turn up in numbers to support you every week[/i.
I'll post the reply here when I get it.
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