I think they need to give up on the idea of getting a full time coach. What kind of coach wants to sac off their club career for a team that will play 5 matches next year, 2 of them meaningful, with a prospect of a third if they win one of the two meaningful ones.



Especially as the international game is seen as second prize to the club game worldwide.



No reasonable coach would want the job.

Quote ="Dreamer"Your wrong on so many different levels - are you league freak?? We need better systems, better youth policies, better core skill development, better athletic development and better continual development for those players coaches and officials with potential. But then most people already know this. We need to understand the Aus game but if we want to beat it we need something different - not just a clone. Not everything that comes out of aus is good. Initially we may need a good aussie coach in a development role but ultimately we need to get some bright people involved in the game and control our own ">future.'" It does sound like League Freak, another post mentions the need of 'educate' us, a classic freakism. Anyway, this thread has been diverted long enough by banal attacks on our game. Dreamer's post is absolutely correct, and in line with the direction the RFL clearly want to go. They are appointing a person in essentially two positions. A director of Elite Rugby, a la Rob Andrew in Yawnian, and a team manager / coach to be accompanied by assistants (who in our case are presumably head coaches or assistants in SL) like that tall one from the goonies who is in manager of the Yawnian team. This will take a special individual who would hopefully not disire a club coaching role before the next world cup. Hence, we find ourselves looking at two ends of a spectrum. Either, a very experienced individual who would feel they have done all they can at club level, or a dynamic and articulate young former player who has no immediate desire to coach at club level but has a passion for the game and solid ideas about the way forward. That individual should be based in England throughout the course of the year overseeing the development of the deep structures, whilst surrounded by experience and wisdom whilst in charge of the England team. In that respect, I don't see this role as one for an Australian. An Aussie might serve in some advisory role, but the decisions and direction need to be led by the man at the top and seen through over a number of years.

Quote ="Dreamer"Your wrong on so many different levels - are you league freak?? We need better systems, better youth policies, better core skill development, better athletic development and better continual development for those players coaches and officials with potential. But then most people already know this. We need to understand the Aus game but if we want to beat it we need something different - not just a clone. Not everything that comes out of aus is good. Initially we may need a good aussie coach in a development role but ultimately we need to get some bright people involved in the game and control our own ">future.'" It does sound like League Freak, another post mentions the need of 'educate' us, a classic freakism. Anyway, this thread has been diverted long enough by banal attacks on our game. Dreamer's post is absolutely correct, and in line with the direction the RFL clearly want to go. They are appointing a person in essentially two positions. A director of Elite Rugby, a la Rob Andrew in Yawnian, and a team manager / coach to be accompanied by assistants (who in our case are presumably head coaches or assistants in SL) like that tall one from the goonies who is in manager of the Yawnian team. This will take a special individual who would hopefully not disire a club coaching role before the next world cup. Hence, we find ourselves looking at two ends of a spectrum. Either, a very experienced individual who would feel they have done all they can at club level, or a dynamic and articulate young former player who has no immediate desire to coach at club level but has a passion for the game and solid ideas about the way forward. That individual should be based in England throughout the course of the year overseeing the development of the deep structures, whilst surrounded by experience and wisdom whilst in charge of the England team. In that respect, I don't see this role as one for an Australian. An Aussie might serve in some advisory role, but the decisions and direction need to be led by the man at the top and seen through over a number of years.

Quote ="10940"You poms are so one-eyed,I guess that when the next Four Nations Tournement comes around,you will all be remembering how we 'NEARLY' beat the Aussies last time....it's no good trying to educate you ">lot.'" not one-eyed at all... what i'm doing is taking the positives out of a team of no hopers and kids beating the world champions and running the aussies close for an hour.... i,for one, was very happy with our entire 4 nations performance..and our kids and no hopers now know what to expect next time

Quote ="10940"You poms are so one-eyed,I guess that when the next Four Nations Tournement comes around,you will all be remembering how we 'NEARLY' beat the Aussies last time....it's no good trying to educate you ">lot.'" not one-eyed at all... what i'm doing is taking the positives out of a team of no hopers and kids beating the world champions and running the aussies close for an hour.... i,for one, was very happy with our entire 4 nations performance..and our kids and no hopers now know what to expect next time

Quote ="Catalancs"We were more bothered about beating the world champions. Something you didn't manage to ">do.'" Gee,I should have known you weren't interested in winning the Four Nations or breaking the 37 year losing drought against Australia,...you beat the World Champions NZ didn't you? [size=150CONGRATULATIONS[/size

Quote ="Catalancs"We were more bothered about beating the world champions. Something you didn't manage to ">do.'" Gee,I should have known you weren't interested in winning the Four Nations or breaking the 37 year losing drought against Australia,...you beat the World Champions NZ didn't you? [size=150CONGRATULATIONS[/size

All I can say is,....you are very easily satisfied,you have known for the last 37 years "what to expect next time" but you cannot do anything about it.........It isn't a case of "Will Australia win"but "how many they will win by"

I am prepared to back Australia to beat England by 30 points the next 3 times they play each other.

good for you...and i'm keep backing us to beat you