Quote ="nickcat0"I happen to agree with James Graham , though possibly for different reasons .



The integrity of a league system is based on playing each team home and away , if the result of this extra fixture alters the final standings in any way , then that integrity has been destroyed .



As for expanding the game outside the M62 corridor ..... why ?



The game has done perfectly fine for over a century , without being played all over the UK . If others want to come on board , let it be a natural progression , rather than a contrived result from the Magic Weekends .



Has anyone considered the possibility that after 114 years , the reason the game is still confined to a small area of the country is because only we are intelligent enough to "get" it .'"



this is a spoof post, right?



The integrity corrupted because there isn't a home & away league? There hasnt been one of those for ages. />


Expansion away from the M62? Because it's vital and the game will wither without it. />


The game hasnt done fine for over a century, and probably hasn't 'done fine' since the 50's and 60's. It was withering away since the 70's, unable to grow, nor attract player numbers or sponsorship or media attention or spectators to speak of. The game was dying and summer rugby, SL, initiatives like MM etc werent even in existence when the game was dying. Without expansion, whichever way you choose to measure it, the game would be on its knees by now.



Thanks to initiatives like these (though not really MM itself) people do want to come on board and there is now a pathway for clubs to do that, which there never was even when the game was 'doing fine'. There never was natural progression, but there is now. Anyway, it's only during threads like these on message boards like these, where people use expansion and MM in the same breath. MM isn't an expansion tool; it never was and never will be. It may have some positive effects in that regards, equally it may not but it doesn't matter because that isn't what it's about. Mind you, if people are exposed to the game and like it - purely as a result of attending MM - how can that be contrived? I'd call it good planning or marketing, or good fortune, maybe even lucky, but it isn't contrived. />


too intelligent - what? the average RL supporter? The supporter who only knows 6 laws and couldn't be stuffed about any other club but his own, the very supporter who couldnt get off his ar$e and travel 20 miles to watch their country play an international? The supporter who cant see past his own self-interested nose? intelligent? Dont make me laugh. You were doing well with your post until you let that absolute pearler through!!

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good trolling though!

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Quote ="nickcat0"I happen to agree with James Graham , though possibly for different reasons .



The integrity of a league system is based on playing each team home and away , if the result of this extra fixture alters the final standings in any way , then that integrity has been destroyed .



As for expanding the game outside the M62 corridor ..... why ?



The game has done perfectly fine for over a century , without being played all over the UK . If others want to come on board , let it be a natural progression , rather than a contrived result from the Magic Weekends .



Has anyone considered the possibility that after 114 years , the reason the game is still confined to a small area of the country is because only we are intelligent enough to "get" it .'"



this is a spoof post, right?



The integrity corrupted because there isn't a home & away league? There hasnt been one of those for ages. />


Expansion away from the M62? Because it's vital and the game will wither without it. />


The game hasnt done fine for over a century, and probably hasn't 'done fine' since the 50's and 60's. It was withering away since the 70's, unable to grow, nor attract player numbers or sponsorship or media attention or spectators to speak of. The game was dying and summer rugby, SL, initiatives like MM etc werent even in existence when the game was dying. Without expansion, whichever way you choose to measure it, the game would be on its knees by now.



Thanks to initiatives like these (though not really MM itself) people do want to come on board and there is now a pathway for clubs to do that, which there never was even when the game was 'doing fine'. There never was natural progression, but there is now. Anyway, it's only during threads like these on message boards like these, where people use expansion and MM in the same breath. MM isn't an expansion tool; it never was and never will be. It may have some positive effects in that regards, equally it may not but it doesn't matter because that isn't what it's about. Mind you, if people are exposed to the game and like it - purely as a result of attending MM - how can that be contrived? I'd call it good planning or marketing, or good fortune, maybe even lucky, but it isn't contrived. />


too intelligent - what? the average RL supporter? The supporter who only knows 6 laws and couldn't be stuffed about any other club but his own, the very supporter who couldnt get off his ar$e and travel 20 miles to watch their country play an international? The supporter who cant see past his own self-interested nose? intelligent? Dont make me laugh. You were doing well with your post until you let that absolute pearler through!!

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good trolling though!

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Quote Choosing to wait until after you've lost an important game to complain about something that both Sky and the BBC have done for years without anyone raising a whisper makes him look a small minded idiot. />


Not ">really.'"

Quote Choosing to wait until after you've lost an important game to complain about something that both Sky and the BBC have done for years without anyone raising a whisper makes him look a small minded idiot. />


Not ">really.'"

Quote ="Judder Man"

They have it at the Millenium Stadium and the moment a welsh team is introduced into superleague they move the magic weekend away, surly there would possibly be significant welsh local interest when they find the Celtic Crusaders competing in the event. />


They then move it to Murrayfield in Edinburgh, prior to the event they promote the game where there is a scottish rugby league presence which is in, wait for it in Glasgow.. I know quite a few naval dock workers in Scotland and only 1 in 8 of them knew there was a magic weekend taking part. />


Can,t wait for 2012 as it will probably be in Dublin. '"



but we all know the reason for that and it's sod-all to do with having a Welsh team in SL. It would have been moved had there not been a Welsh team in SL - it has nothing to do with it. MM isn't about expanding the game in virgin territory, nor is it about attempting to start a franchise in Edinburgh. />


In terms of marketing MM in Glasgow where there is RL presence already - why not? We'd be moaning at the RFL if they didn't! It seems to make sense to me - you fish where the fish are. It seems obvious you're going to be pushing on an open door advertising to people who already know about the game and have an interest in it. It seems to me you'd be more likely to get them in the door, rather than try and educate and convert a complete novice, then try and get him in the fonr door. Your comment about only 1 in 8 is a different thing altogether thuugh, isn't it? How much money would the RFL need to spend on advertising and marketing to achieve this 8 out of 8 penetration? I dont know myself but I am pretty confident in saying that the RFL couldnt afford it. To get more bang for your buck, you spend your money on that which will gve you the best payback. />


btw - why will it probaby be in Dublin? what have you heard?

Quote ="Judder Man"

They have it at the Millenium Stadium and the moment a welsh team is introduced into superleague they move the magic weekend away, surly there would possibly be significant welsh local interest when they find the Celtic Crusaders competing in the event. />


They then move it to Murrayfield in Edinburgh, prior to the event they promote the game where there is a scottish rugby league presence which is in, wait for it in Glasgow.. I know quite a few naval dock workers in Scotland and only 1 in 8 of them knew there was a magic weekend taking part. />


Can,t wait for 2012 as it will probably be in Dublin. '"



but we all know the reason for that and it's sod-all to do with having a Welsh team in SL. It would have been moved had there not been a Welsh team in SL - it has nothing to do with it. MM isn't about expanding the game in virgin territory, nor is it about attempting to start a franchise in Edinburgh. />


In terms of marketing MM in Glasgow where there is RL presence already - why not? We'd be moaning at the RFL if they didn't! It seems to make sense to me - you fish where the fish are. It seems obvious you're going to be pushing on an open door advertising to people who already know about the game and have an interest in it. It seems to me you'd be more likely to get them in the door, rather than try and educate and convert a complete novice, then try and get him in the fonr door. Your comment about only 1 in 8 is a different thing altogether thuugh, isn't it? How much money would the RFL need to spend on advertising and marketing to achieve this 8 out of 8 penetration? I dont know myself but I am pretty confident in saying that the RFL couldnt afford it. To get more bang for your buck, you spend your money on that which will gve you the best payback. />


btw - why will it probaby be in Dublin? what have you heard?