That's a good point - Sometimes I forget he's basically spent the last 5 years trying to resurect his career!!



1 bone headed decision basically condemed him to a career of making of the numbers instead of challenging for medals. I'm sure if he had the chance again he would't have walked in the beeting shop that day!

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And he's still younger than eight of the current Saints first team ">squad.'" In one. I think it would be highly hypocritical if Saints fans were slating an aged player for being old. Lee Gilmour - 31 Matt Gidley - 31 Willie Talau - 33 Martin Gleeson - 28. I'd still have him back at Saints and it would have to be a great player to get the place ahead of him (ie Jamie Lyon). Gleeson works hard, gains great metres, has had a raft of successful wing-men outside of him and is involved in a lot of tackles. The argument about his attitude cant be used as he was one of many at Saints at the time who committed similar offenses and Warrington have never been famed for their discipline. I also don't think they're fobbing him off, Mathers and Goulding could either work well for them or make them money through loan spells. Add that fact they wanted some cash before he went for free.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And he's still younger than eight of the current Saints first team ">squad.'" In one. I think it would be highly hypocritical if Saints fans were slating an aged player for being old. Lee Gilmour - 31 Matt Gidley - 31 Willie Talau - 33 Martin Gleeson - 28. I'd still have him back at Saints and it would have to be a great player to get the place ahead of him (ie Jamie Lyon). Gleeson works hard, gains great metres, has had a raft of successful wing-men outside of him and is involved in a lot of tackles. The argument about his attitude cant be used as he was one of many at Saints at the time who committed similar offenses and Warrington have never been famed for their discipline. I also don't think they're fobbing him off, Mathers and Goulding could either work well for them or make them money through loan spells. Add that fact they wanted some cash before he went for free.

Quote ="Shakespeare"In one. I think it would be highly hypocritical if Saints fans were slating an aged player for being old. Lee Gilmour - 31 Matt Gidley - 31 Willie Talau - 33 Martin Gleeson - 28. I'd still have him back at Saints and it would have to be a great player to get the place ahead of him (ie Jamie Lyon). Gleeson works hard, gains great metres, has had a raft of successful wing-men outside of him and is involved in a lot of tackles. The argument about his attitude cant be used as he was one of many at Saints at the time who committed similar offenses and Warrington have never been famed for their discipline. I also don't think they're fobbing him off, Mathers and Goulding could either work well for them or make them money through loan spells. Add that fact they wanted some cash before he went for ">free.'" i concur, but surely big willie is at salford now icon_wink.gif" alt="icon_wink.gif" title="Wink" />

Quote ="Shakespeare"In one. I think it would be highly hypocritical if Saints fans were slating an aged player for being old. Lee Gilmour - 31 Matt Gidley - 31 Willie Talau - 33 Martin Gleeson - 28. I'd still have him back at Saints and it would have to be a great player to get the place ahead of him (ie Jamie Lyon). Gleeson works hard, gains great metres, has had a raft of successful wing-men outside of him and is involved in a lot of tackles. The argument about his attitude cant be used as he was one of many at Saints at the time who committed similar offenses and Warrington have never been famed for their discipline. I also don't think they're fobbing him off, Mathers and Goulding could either work well for them or make them money through loan spells. Add that fact they wanted some cash before he went for ">free.'" i concur, but surely big willie is at salford now icon_wink.gif" alt="icon_wink.gif" title="Wink" />

A bit of a risk for Wigan. Its well documented his off the field problems and he will command a huge salary, and a long term contract to boot.



Another Fielden esq saga will see the goons lumbered with another expensive flop whilst out youngsters are bloodied and thrive!

i think its a great deal for wigan- just the fact that mathers is going has sealed the deal for me!



in gleeson and carmont weve got two centres who are up there with the best in super league.

Awful deal for Warrington, losing Gleeson and getting Mathers. You'd think they'd have wanted someone half decent in return.