JJB had a similar injury record but we didn't palm him off and that turned out OK. We might well have young players in the squad but the likes of Thompson, Donaldson, Dwyer, Hardaker etc are getting picked now most weeks. How many young players are actually getting picked especially in the backs? Newman is suspended so we play Martin in the centre - hardly giving a young player a chance?

What salary was JJB on when he was injured? I bet not the same as Jack. and How many games had he played in his first 5 years?

I think you clearly have an issue with the Hardaker signing - which is fine that's your opinion but Id say Hardaker is the better player and again Jack is on Loan it's not made permanent just yet so he may well be back with us at some point.

I don't particularly want Jack to leave as I think he has massive potential but the fact is he has been in the first team squad for 5 years and has only played 80 games.

I listened to a podcast a few weeks ago with Craig Harrison and
Some other herberts who could talk a glass eye to sleep.
Harrison was talking in generic terms about A coach who has players on big
Contracts that he can’t shift but is determined to make changes and therefore looks at moving on other players he values more highly.

You didn’t need to be Sherlock Holmes to guess who he might be talking about.

For next year, we will have lost Mellor, broadbent, and Bodene.
I’d also expect Briscoe and Dwyer to go. IF we also lost Walker and Sutcliffe with likely Zak and Sangerre coming in then we should still have a fair bit of cap to play with.

Don’t think Jack will be getting MOM tonight, what on earth is going on at Hull?

Lots of injuries. Lack of form, lack of confidence. Sound familiar?

Content with continually picking up players that are not good enough for Leeds!
What do you expect?
Sutty will tighten things up for them....

Yes but difference is we haven’t been leaking that amount of points like Hull have, thats two 50 + point drubbings in 2 weeks

To be fair to them they’ve got 12 missing. Last week with 5 on debut they jagged a derby win. They will have been drained emotionally and Wigan’s pace in the back 3 is exceptional.
Plus some of Fc’s
Older players are not very good anymore. There are similarities with us but think we are better placed for next year at the moment.
Still ahead of us in the table in 5th which emphasises how many average to poor teams are in SL

We have to play Wigan next week. Already feeling queasy.

Me too. You can’t play any of the top 3 with 1 prop, no halves and plenty of other injuries and issues