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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:25 pm 
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Horatio Yed wrote:A compulsory set amount of hours before you can apply for test with a tick off system that shows you've had a lesson in most weathers/conditions ie Bright Sunshine, rain, icy or snow conditions, night time driving, rush hour.


Not sure about this. Lets say you tell someone they have to have 40 hours. What happens if they are good enough after 30. People will moan about being ripped off.
So what happens if it doesnt snow. Would it people cant then drive in the snow?

Horatio Yed wrote:A longer test


I would agree with this. One hour long should be enough.

Horatio Yed wrote:Skid pan training


Good idea, but i bet it would be hard to set up.

Horatio Yed wrote:Compulsory motorway training


Fully agree with that.
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Horatio Yed wrote:On passing your test draconian rules for the first 2 years


Not enough police to enforce it.

Horatio Yed wrote:No car over a 1.3L and fixed limit on BHP output (stops souped up 1.3 death traps) for 2 years.


I would not limit engine size, but would limit engine power.

Horatio Yed wrote:Blameworthy accidents in first 2 years means having to go for an assessment on your driving and possible license revocation if not satisfactory.


Agree with half of it. The driving assessment would not be a true reflection of how someone drives.

Horatio Yed wrote:Keep the 6 points rule.


Agree with that.

Horatio Yed wrote:Telemetric insurance.



Agree with that as well.
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Horatio Yed wrote:10 years after passing and every 10 years there after having to attend a one day driving class to bring up any new road rules etc and one day driving assessment only for the basis of ironing out faults and bad habits that may have crept in .


This should be every 5 years. And a full medical and eye sight test as well.

Now what about all those who have already passed and are driving like clowns?

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I literally nearly died today on the A64, was doing less than the speed limit on a single carriageway coming upto a small blind hill, when I am greeted with an Audi who was overtaking a lorry. Both of us slammed on, the woman ragged her car behind the lorry as I swerved. I had to pull over shortly after, I was actually in shock, my life is actually in the hands of these horrible creatures. I prefer Motorway driving anyday.


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 Post subject: Re: Death on the UK roads
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Quote:So what happens if it doesnt snow. Would it people cant then drive in the snow?


Icy or snow, basically very cold wintery conditions, even if it doesn't snow we always have minus temperatures that alter the road conditions.






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Horatio Yed wrote:Icy or snow, basically very cold wintery conditions, even if it doesn't snow we always have minus temperatures that alter the road conditions.


I think this would be better done on a skid pan.
Then things could be covered closer together.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:40 pm 
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TFC wrote:I literally nearly died today on the A64, was doing less than the speed limit on a single carriageway coming upto a small blind hill, when I am greeted with an Audi who was overtaking a lorry. Both of us slammed on, the woman ragged her car behind the lorry as I swerved. I had to pull over shortly after, I was actually in shock, my life is actually in the hands of these horrible creatures. I prefer Motorway driving anyday.


I was in a bad accident in 2009 i'd just bought a new car, i went round to show it to my mate, on the way home with my wife a woman overtook a car on a bend and hit me head on at 40mph, i've never been the same since physically and mentally and it's made me look at driving completely differently, it's made me realise tbh that it doesn't matter how safe i am as long as their are idiots on the road, i'm always at risk.
I drive as safe as i can though as i feel it gives me a fraction more time to react should anything happen outside my control.






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Ferocious Aardvark wrote: Another is the ability of young males to acquire high powered cars, and run them with no owner registration and no insurance, like friggin' dodgems with no regard at all for anyone else, middle finger at the ready.


I'm hearing what you are saying, I understand that there are parts of Bradford that lead the world in this sort of thing :wink:






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A change of attitude is needed. I'm sure I read somewhere a few years ago that there was a marked correlation between the end of a Grand Prix and a slight, but measurable and predictable, increase in car accidents.

As long as cars are driven by d'keds like Clarkson and cohorts around a circuit to see if they can get the booty to step out, they're going to have idiots with no experience trying to do the same with their little chavmobile. I'm just glad there is no motorbike equivelent to Top Gear, the roads would be even more full of Rossi wannabes.
Yes, middle lane hoggers, ditherers and the rest are a problem, but they're nowhere near as much of an issue as spotty little herberts in souped up rotboxes thinking they can become the next Formula 1 champion by practicing on main roads.

Just to head back a few pages, am I the only one that believes Cod'eds assertations? Are the rest of you such poor drivers that you honestly can't see that forward planning, and a vehicle limited to 56mph, can make you a better driver? I'm in his shoes.. I've had advanced riding lessons - yes, you can do them on a scooter - and it changed so many of my bad habits and taught me a lot that I've not had a fraction of the scares and spills which scattered me across various roads previously.

The one thing we all forget - you have a driving 'licence', not a driving 'right'. It's time there was more emphasis put on this.






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You can indeed do an advanced driving course, and an advanced driving test. There isn't an official one, but it is a service offered by various providers. It could be made compulsory to do such a course and pass the test within (say) 2 years of passing the basic test. With licence restrictions on engine cc, bhp and speed in the meantime.






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Scooter Nik wrote:Yes, middle lane hoggers, ditherers and the rest are a problem, but they're nowhere near as much of an issue as spotty little herberts in souped up rotboxes thinking they can become the next Formula 1 champion by practicing on main roads.


That sounds like The Wincanton Under 18 Street Racing Club, only very little about their Novas is souped up, apart from a big bore exhaust. Their usual circuit is from Morrison's car park through the town to the Memorial Hall car park & back again. They were seriously peeved on Friday when the High Street was closed off for the Christmas Fair but by 10.00pm they were back in action again.

On the subject of uninsured drivers, I wouldn't wait until they could supply evidence that the vehicle is insured to get it out of the compound. Unless they could categorically prove that their vehicle was insured at the time they were stopped, then crush it, simple as. There are more than enough high-end & luxury cars being driven uninsured and it shouldn't matter who the driver is or what vehicle he drives. If it's uninsured, it becomes a little cube.






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