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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:54 pm 
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R.B.A wrote:In 2005 we were playing in the National Leagues on a pitch the size of a postage stamp infront of 2000 people. And we were not very good.
In 2009 we finished 4th on the league ladder in Super League on a full sized pitch that cost the club 250k, in an extended stadium that cost the club circa 500k, in front of 8500 spectators.

In 2005 Hull were Challenge Cup winners and finished in a Super League play off position.
In 2009 you finished 12th....
Things really are going against you arnt they?


You asked me to backup what i'd said and i did. Do you not have anything to say about the points ive written? Comparing yourselves to us like you have here is in my opinion what has brought this financial bother about for your club as it is.

I'll take you not responding about the points above as acknowledgement that they are factually correct and i'm pleased for once youve taken your blinkers off and acknowledged that all is not rosey! :wink: :D

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The Goroka Gene-ius wrote:Most Rovers fans ain't too worried as they understand the 2 blokes who have put the cash up are Rovers through & through. They also know that in Justin Morgan we have a coach who will always be able to put out a competitive side.


2 blokes putting cash in is the risk. Whether theyre fans or not they dont have bottomless pits of money. Hudge has eluded to this too by saying the business needs to sustain itself. For Rovers fans not to be a little worried about the transition they need to go through i'd be concerned, thats why i think most of your counter arguements seem to pick on FC as a defence mechanism. Bigger clubs than Rovers have come unstuck in this difficult time to make a profit and become self-sustainable at a high level.

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Pudsey Robin wrote:Don't burst thier bubble; their Dad's army team will do that about 2 months in to next season 8)


Whats FC got to do with any of this. We're talking about the position of Rovers arent we? (of which i have an opinion even though they arent my club before you say anything) :wink:

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R.B.A wrote:In 2005 Hull were Challenge Cup winners and finished in a Super League play off position. Average attendance 10,604
In 2009 you finished 12th....Average attendance 13,244
Things really are going against you arnt they?


Fair's fair RBA. :lol:

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Sheldon wrote:when did clinton play for australia?

saying you missed out on a former test star becasue you couldn't fit him under the cap is about as relevent as saying you missed out on the full australian side because of the quota.
I would be surprised if Clinton was asking for a massive salary in all honesty as when he signed for Brisbane he took a massive pay cut.

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Sheldon wrote:well read them again. :lol:
i will next time i cant sleep :roll:

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Big Dave T wrote:does make me chuckle though when you dont think youre in bother and you think you'll still be competetive over the next couple of seasons. Do you really think that or is it bravado?


Competitive as in will definately win an acceptable number of games or competitive in the sense that we'll expect, rather than just hope to win SL? If the former, I'd say definately.
The team really grew in 2009 and looks stronger now than it did at the start of that season. Only one of the players that has left had a first 13 squad number. Much loved as the were, Aizue only made the team once in the last 11 rounds, while Gene was limited to couple of starts and handful of the games from the bench. They'll excel in the in NL, but were not crucial to our success in 2009. Ratu in the centres, Walker hopefully returning to compete for a place in the back row in place of now-a-prop Rhys Lovegrove, plus the arrival of Cook, is very progressive IMO. We'll need more from Cockayne and something from Hodgson to compensate for the loss of Fitzhenry, but I don't think that is unrealistic.
Where we do look weaker than 12 months ago is at prop. Lovegrove was a nice surprise and Wheeldon what we hoped for. There is no disguising the loss of Fozzard, and Mills's season stalling pretty much completely. As long as Vella stays fit, it'll be okay, but we'd all like to see a bit more support for him.

Briscoe, Fox, Welham (did I mention he made the RLW team of the season? :wink: ), Dobson, Murrell, Newton and Vella are all contracted beyond 2010 and look a pretty decent foundation to me. A few good youngsters coming in alongside them, over the next couple of years, would provide even more cause for optimism.

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Mild Rover wrote:Competitive as in will definately win an acceptable number of games or competitive in the sense that we'll expect, rather than just hope to win SL? If the former, I'd say definately.
The team really grew in 2009 and looks stronger now than it did at the start of that season. Only one of the players that has left had a first 13 squad number. Much loved as the were, Aizue only made the team once in the last 11 rounds, while Gene was limited to couple of starts and handful of the games from the bench. They'll excel in the in NL, but were not crucial to our success in 2009. Ratu in the centres, Walker hopefully returning to compete for a place in the back row in place of now-a-prop Rhys Lovegrove, plus the arrival of Cook, is very progressive IMO. We'll need more from Cockayne and something from Hodgson to compensate for the loss of Fitzhenry, but I don't think that is unrealistic.
Where we do look weaker than 12 months ago is at prop. Lovegrove was a nice surprise and Wheeldon what we hoped for. There is no disguising the loss of Fozzard, and Mills's season stalling pretty much completely. As long as Vella stays fit, it'll be okay, but we'd all like to see a bit more support for him.

Briscoe, Fox, Welham (did I mention he made the RLW team of the season? :wink: ), Dobson, Murrell, Newton and Vella are all contracted beyond 2010 and look a pretty decent foundation to me. A few good youngsters coming in alongside them, over the next couple of years, would provide even more cause for optimism.



Good post :CLAP:

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Mild Rover wrote:Welham (did I mention he made the RLW team of the season? :wink: )


:lol: You still on about that? :wink:

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R.B.A wrote:Good post :CLAP:


Yup, a bit of accurate well thought through positivity.

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