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| [url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/mar/17/steve-mcnamara-bradford-bulls-hull-catalans-dragonsMcNamara looks to take bull by the horns in Perpignan encore[/url
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| So Gerry Sutcliffe was at the Hull match then?
Having seen how transient and fickle some of our support is proving, and having heard the boo-boys, it occurs to me he might just have had cause to wonder whether the OSV is worth fighting for?
But of course the stay-aways and the boo-boys won't have given thought to the law of unexpected consequences, will they?
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| Quote Adeybull="Adeybull"So Gerry Sutcliffe was at the Hull match then?
Having seen how transient and fickle some of our support is proving, and having heard the boo-boys, it occurs to me he might just have had cause to wonder whether the OSV is worth fighting for?
But of course the stay-aways and the boo-boys won't have given thought to the law of unexpected consequences, will they?'"
Ah, so THAT's why we don't get our planning permissions for new stadiums. It's cos people boo. It's all so clear now 
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| Quote Roofaldo="Roofaldo"Ah, so THAT's why we don't get our planning permissions for new stadiums. It's cos people boo. It's all so clear now
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Sarcasm eh? The last refuge of a shaky argument. Who said anything about planning permission? The OSV was always about a combination of finances and political backing and will.
To re-iterate - what sort of an impression do you think it gave on Sunday to one of the most important individuals we need behind us? He's not been known as the biggest Bulls supporter in the past. Would YOU have felt more or less inclined to throw your substantial political clout behind the club's role in the project after seeing and hearing the crowd on Sunday?
And its not just the boo-boys; many, even most of us (me included) are as guilty for not providing more vocal support and showing we really really want this club and team here.
And thats before the torrent of negativity that anyone can read across the media and anywhere the club is being discussed.
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| Quote Adeybull="Adeybull"So Gerry Sutcliffe was at the Hull match then?
Having seen how transient and fickle some of our support is proving, and having heard the boo-boys, it occurs to me he might just have had cause to wonder whether the OSV is worth fighting for?
But of course the stay-aways and the boo-boys won't have given thought to the law of unexpected consequences, will they?'"
The boo boys have every right to vent their feelings after another inept and lethergic performance.
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| Quote Adeybull="Adeybull"So Gerry Sutcliffe was at the Hull match then?
Having seen how transient and fickle some of our support is proving, and having heard the boo-boys, it occurs to me he might just have had cause to wonder whether the OSV is worth fighting for?
But of course the stay-aways and the boo-boys won't have given thought to the law of unexpected consequences, will they?'"
Perhaps he will realise that the fickle fans that booed Macca are also thge fickle voters that put him where he is. If he wants to stay there then he should get his finger out.
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| As the article points out again, we just don't have the financial clout of our competition. And yet I don't think that impression filters out more widely. When I tell people why we aren't the force we used to be they react with incredulity.
I suppose this is a testament to how fantastically well we've done in the past without a sugar-daddy and with a millstone of a ground. I can't feel suicidal about NOW because at the back of my mind is always the fact that we've probably been punching above our weight in the past.
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| Quote kingmonkey="kingmonkey"The boo boys have every right to vent their feelings after another inept and lethergic performance.'"
It would be more accurate to say that many of the the boo boys are a totally unreasonable idiots, who won't take anything less than a win, and who failed to see, or didn't want to see, what a vastly improved performance the team put up.
They seem to ignore all the good play and good tries. They seem to ignore all the hard tackles, and big hit ups. Yet they seem to suddenly find their voice when mistakes occur. They seem to find their "boo" whenever an Unfavoured One such as Platt or McNamara is in sight. My conclusion is that they are waiting, hoping and praying for bad play, errors and mistakes and deliberately shut out all the decent rugby from their brains. It never happened.
Personally I find it embarrassing that a grown man would seriously claim a "right to boo". I find the sight of an adult baying like a wildebeest very unedifying. In fact, I find it pathetic.
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| Quote Adeybull="Adeybull"
But of course the stay-aways and the boo-boys won't have given thought to the law of unexpected consequences, will they?'"
Presumably because the consequences were unexpected
Perhaps keeping McNamara on longer than many think necessary might be the real cause of the unitended consequences? I presume those booing were also paying fans rather than non-paying visting dignatories?
There were points in the game on Sunday which were unintentionally funny - Andy Lynch kicking on the fifth, Platt turning to pass to nobody - and frustratingly familiar from last season and this. Blame the players if you like (there's plenty to chose from), but I'm afraid the lack of organisation, poor tackling technique, lack of last play options etc scream poor coaching.
I think boo-ing makes things worse (see Wire) and is unhelpful, but then you have to ask how we've got to the point where people feel this is their only option.
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| The thing to be remembered is that people boo because they care. Once they stop caring they will stop coming.
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| Quote Shaggoth="Shaggoth"
I suppose this is a testament to how fantastically well we've done in the past without a sugar-daddy and with a millstone of a ground. I can't feel suicidal about NOW because at the back of my mind is always the fact that we've probably been punching above our weight in the past.'"
That, I believe, is at the heart of so much of whats currently going on in and around the club (its what I always think about when people compare our declining crowds to the likes of Leeds and Wigan). I made the point back in 2006 and some people took the p!ss, but I stand by it and its good to see others might have the same thought. Its also why I refuse to be too depressed about the current situation.
The club has made great strides since the early/mid 90's and can kick on again I'm sure. But nothing is guarenteed, every team has a down period and they can be harder to get out of without financial clout and a bigger/historically more established fan base.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"It would be more accurate to say that many of the the boo boys are a totally unreasonable idiots, who won't take anything less than a win, and who failed to see, or didn't want to see, what a vastly improved performance the team put up.
They seem to ignore all the good play and good tries. They seem to ignore all the hard tackles, and big hit ups. Yet they seem to suddenly find their voice when mistakes occur. They seem to find their "boo" whenever an Unfavoured One such as Platt or McNamara is in sight. My conclusion is that they are waiting, hoping and praying for bad play, errors and mistakes and deliberately shut out all the decent rugby from their brains. It never happened.
Personally I find it embarrassing that a grown man would seriously claim a "right to boo". I find the sight of an adult baying like a wildebeest very unedifying. In fact, I find it pathetic.'"
To insinuate you find people who Boo pathetic isn't the way forward and neither is it to call them idiots.
Nobody wants to see the team play bad or lose but when it's consistently happening what else can they do? There comes a point despite the clapping and the cheering nothing changes, at what point do we say enough is enough or do people blindly continue to accept what's happening.
There's been a lot of talk on these boards about the negativity of some poster's and how it's not helping the team, and to some degree i accept there can be a tendency to go overboard, but as passionate supporters they have every right to express there opinion, perhaps a counter argument rather than name calling is the best way forward?
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