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| Quote Fingerposts Finest="Fingerposts Finest"remember the thread pep? where you berated me and said i was sucking up to quins because i admired them????????????? no.......................well i do.'"
That was me showing you up for being a two faced hypocrite. It was you who has been slagging London and other expansion clubs off, and have been doing so for years.
And now there is a massive about face. Except you also have this in your sig:
Quote Fingerposts Finest="Fingerposts Finest"HISTORY IS LITTERED WITH EXPANSIONIST MEGALOMANIACS:
JOSEPH STALIN
ADOLPH HITLER
GHENGIS KHAN
RICHARD LEWIS
ARE PRIME EXAMPLES.........'"
You're one strange f*cking hombre and no mistake.
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| Quote Dave T="Dave T" I think it is fair to say that most Wire, Wigan and Saints fans were supportive of Widnes in the franchise process, and certainly want you to be in there in 2012, but people like Soldierboy will only create bad feeling towards your club and fans.
When he goes on posting that the RFL are bailing a club out, when in fact they are providing support to a club, which they have done a fair few times with other clubs (SL and Championship) it just looks like a bitter paranoid fan. '"
To most people who can read, the RFL have only stated that they are sending a task force to help find investors and marketing the club. That doesn’t mean they will not get financial help. That help, if it comes, should be in the form of a significant reduction in the TV money given to other SL clubs, to fund CC and keep them going for the next 2 years.
Quote Dave T="Dave T" Without sounding patronising, I think most people have been impressed with Widnes the way they have gone about things since they were left out. You haven't gone down Leigh's route, being bitter and not supporting your club and that is to your credit.
Just because people belive in expansion doesn;t mean that they don;t support the traditional clubs, and IMO you should have had Salford's spot, and moving forwards, you are putting yourself above a couple of teams already in SL.'"
Without wishing to sound too boastful, we’ve been above a few SL clubs for several years. With Steve O’Connor at the helm, we are even stronger.
We were turned down for a licence entirely for financial history, despite SOC giving a half-a-million pounds, up front, guarantee. Here we are less than a year on and thriving, while CC are in a financial crisis. Doesn’t say much for the RFL and it’s ‘criteria’ does it?
It’s a bit difficult to have any faith whatsoever in the RFL using that ‘criteria’ to pick the strongest bids, and not just put every emphasis on expansion. I have every reason to be concerned that Widnes will never receive a licence as a result.
FWIW I hoipe Cetlic pull through.
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| Quote Dave T="Dave T"I think it is fair to say that most Wire, Wigan and Saints fans were supportive of Widnes in the franchise process, and certainly want you to be in there in 2012, but people like Soldierboy will only create bad feeling towards your club and fans.
When he goes on posting that the RFL are bailing a club out, when in fact they are providing support to a club, which they have done a fair few times with other clubs (SL and Championship) it just looks like a bitter paranoid fan.
Without sounding patronising, I think most people have been impressed with Widnes the way they have gone about things since they were left out. You haven't gone down Leigh's route, being bitter and not supporting your club and that is to your credit.
Just because people belive in expansion doesn;t mean that they don;t support the traditional clubs, and IMO you should have had Salford's spot, and moving forwards, you are putting yourself above a couple of teams already in SL.'"
Oh dear , look the patronising SL fan having a pop at little old Leigh just because I blew him away in an argument about the poxy 9's

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| Quote Fingerposts Finest="Fingerposts Finest"typo corrected.............................'"
"Oh when the Saints, oh when the Saints, oh when the Saints go marching in............" 
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| Quote Dave T="Dave T"people like Soldierboy will only create bad feeling towards your club and fans.'"
But, when all's said and done, this is only the internet and that bad feeling only exists in the minds of a few dozen clueless s on rlfans.
It's not as if he's doing any damage in the real world.
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Oh dear , look the patronising SL fan having a pop at little old Leigh just because I blew him away in an argument about the poxy 9's
'" Nah, that was an example of the bitterness I refer to.
FWIW, I don't have any issues with Leigh fans, certainly not on this board, I have no issue with disagreeing with people, it doesn't mean I am right, and doesn't mean they/you are right.
My comments about Leigh were based on the fact that their fans just haven't embraced the new stadium, and generally put it down to lack of promotion available (I am referring to people on Totalrl.com here btw), when clubs like Widnes haven;t allowed this to drag their club down. Plenty of clubs this year have attracted some very good crowds, and look to be moving in the right direction, Leigh are going the other way.
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| Quote Steve Fox="Steve Fox"But, when all's said and done, this is only the internet and that bad feeling only exists in the minds of a few dozen clueless s on rlfans.
It's not as if he's doing any damage in the real world.'" Not really sure of your point. We are talking about these boards, and about RL fans.
It frustrates me when you get Wire trolls on boards which generally means that you can't get into many decent discussions on certain boards due to these people.
Not saying Soldierboy was trolling, but what was the point of going onto Saints and Wigan boards moaning about Celtic?
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| Quote Pepe="Pepe"To most people who can read, the RFL have only stated that they are sending a task force to help find investors and marketing the club. That doesn’t mean they will not get financial help. That help, if it comes, should be in the form of a significant reduction in the TV money given to other SL clubs, to fund CC and keep them going for the next 2 years.
'" Wouldn;t disagree with that. Not 100% sure how it works, but I don't feel that all the TV money should just be split between the clubs anway.
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Without wishing to sound too boastful, we’ve been above a few SL clubs for several years. With Steve O’Connor at the helm, we are even stronger.
We were turned down for a licence entirely for financial history, despite SOC giving a half-a-million pounds, up front, guarantee. Here we are less than a year on and thriving, while CC are in a financial crisis. Doesn’t say much for the RFL and it’s ‘criteria’ does it?
It’s a bit difficult to have any faith whatsoever in the RFL using that ‘criteria’ to pick the strongest bids, and not just put every emphasis on expansion. I have every reason to be concerned that Widnes will never receive a licence as a result.
FWIW I hoipe Cetlic pull through.'" Yes, the RFL did decline you for a franchise based on financial history. On one hand it seemed incredibly harsh, especially when looking at some of the other candidates, but then there is also the argument that they would be seen to be rewarding a club who had gone bust not much earlier, and hadn't had the necessary time to prove that the new management structure was a worthy one. Not really worth going over all that again though as I assume we are all in agreement that Widnes were worthy of a place.
One last point though, there is no indication that Celtic are struggling financially. They too have a rich backer, and so far, apart from rumours, nothing suggests they are at risk of going bust. Where they do seem to be struggling is with the experience and knowledge of running a full time team in an expansion area.
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| Quote Dave T="Dave T"Nah, that was an example of the bitterness I refer to.
FWIW, I don't have any issues with Leigh fans, certainly not on this board, I have no issue with disagreeing with people, it doesn't mean I am right, and doesn't mean they/you are right.
My comments about Leigh were based on the fact that their fans just haven't embraced the new stadium, and generally put it down to lack of promotion available (I am referring to people on Totalrl.com here btw), when clubs like Widnes haven;t allowed this to drag their club down. Plenty of clubs this year have attracted some very good crowds, and look to be moving in the right direction, Leigh are going the other way.'"
No bitterness , just rank bad idea's from the RFL , proved by your lack of comment on it and answers to the questions asked of you about it
As for ' our ' stadium , well unfortunatley it isn't ours and possibly never will be , possibly the biggest mistake we have ever made
As for clubs below SL moving in the right direction , yes there are one or two I can think of , but the bulk are finding things much tougher
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| Quote Dave T="Dave T"there is no indication that Celtic are struggling financially.'"
There are 3 CCJs referred to in this week's League Express. They are often a sign of a business struggling to meet all of its obligations and having to prioritise as to which debts it pays and which it allows to go to a CCJ.
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