I dont, i think our tactics have been shocking for the last 2 games and only just above average for the first few games, we just seemed to play the teams when they hadnt hit their straps yet.

I put the Cas defeat down to us thinking we are something we're not i.e. throwing miracle passes out and trying to wow the crowd before getting a plaform built first (do i sound like Agar and Sharp!!)





The Quins game was totally different in that we didn't have a clue in attack and we didn't vary the sets enough to creat any confusion in their defence, this may be down to restricted tactics of the coaches, the conditions or simply the fact that we didn't get a platform from winning the forward battle.



I'm still confident of a good(ish) season...but my opinion on Rich Agar is still open i'm afraid....lets hope he proves many of us wrong.

I agree entirely. And I think what we saw at Quins was a reaction to the way we tried to play against Cas, with Agar/Sharp insisting on a more conservative style of play. Trouble is we went too far that way.



I know that there are many things that determine the outcome of a game, but I think that you can point to 2 moments in the 2 defeats that indicate our attitude in those games. Thorman's pass to Briscoe after we had scored against Cas, was too risky a play for me and indicated an over confidence. kicking the penalty against Quins, when they would have been facing a third consecutive set of six if we had taken the tap, was too negative.



There's got to be a balance, and I think that we achieved that at Bradford.

Spot on.



Althought the Thorman pass to Briscoe was a set move practised all week on the back of right winger Dixon taking the kick off and Evans the right centre flying in. Had Briscoe taken the pass we may have been 12v0 up in under 5 mins. I dont mind Hull taking risks to some extent, it is all about balance.



The Quins simply played the strong wind advantage to perfection with their long kicks dead and forty twenty effort. We needed a lead at half time and should have ran the penalty IMO.



I think most of the negativity is because last year is still fairly fresh in the memory and any signs of a repeat gets people thinking the worst!

And we have a winner.

Is the answer Litmus paper?

i dunno why ppl bring up the cas game as a poor loss..we lost by one point...how many times in the 5 previous games did danny tickle miss a conversion??? not many...we lost that game due to danny having 1 bad kicking game..if he had converted the tries would we have won...i`d like to bet the answer would be yes.ok i understand that maybe they didnt play as well as everyone expected them to against cas but thats sport and life..everyone has there off days...i dont get why ppl are pointing the finger at richard agar for 1 poor second half out of 7 games????

Blame the short turnaround for defeat in the Derby , the excuses have started already !

Who mentioned the derby.....................

I think people are getting overly concerned with people being critical of our approach and confusing this with negativity!

Ignore him. His avatar is a self portrait.

because Salford are obviously going to lie down and take a beating...

this is their CC final....