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| Quote UllFC="UllFC"Which is true but unfortunately the financial situation at the club isn't great, as we know TV money is down, debts due to Covid have grown, the stadium situation is worrying we are more likely to see a budget cut and the club run below salary cap then we are another round of big spending. Pearson has spent big 3 times (2013, 2016 and 2020) and he's had his fingers burnt twice and may be wary of doing it again.
A big winter ahead. 'Wait til next year' absolutely needs to go on the club badge.'"
Spending big wasn’t what burnt AP’s fingers for me it was spending big but keeping the same coaching set up behind all the failures. Other than the 2 Cup wins which I shall be eternally grateful for we blew the best chance we’ve had at reaching and winning a GF in 2016 and never kicked on.
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| To answer the original question, no our season isn’t over.
Tonight wasn’t great and we should have managed the game better to win the match. We now have three tough games in a row.
However, the remainder of the season is all about making and achieving in the play offs.
Firstly, can we finish in the Top Six? Yes, assume we can play our first two games in hand v Leigh and Salford at home, then that should improve our current standing to 4th.
After these next three games, we should also start to see the return of Shaul, Connor and Taylor, plus Savelio will be back. Put these four in our 17 and we are able to give anyone a game in a knockout competition.
If we make the play offs I don’t think it really matters much if we finish 3rd-6th. Those games are going to be tight whether we are at home or away. It’s hitting form at the right time and that may still happen.
As for the future, well the close season will be the real first opportunity for Brett to start re-shaping the team, subject to funds and contract positions.
As for our previous great recruitment (Motu) and youngsters coming through (Horne, Cooke etc), it’s worth remembering that in the first 18 years of Super League we won one Challenge Cup and made one Grand Final appearance. I’d say on average our league position was about 6th.
So to say the season is over after losing tonight is premature. On the whole we are probably performing above our usual position and the season may still turn out ok. (anyone else remember how they felt after 58 mins when 20-0 down at Craven Park on Good Friday, compared with how they felt at Wembley in the August back in 2016?)
Let’s not give up. A season is not based on one, or just a few results. I’ll judge the season when it’s over… and that’s not tonight.
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Sure I heard Adam say we can compete with every club apart from Warrington and Leeds when it came to the cap on the radio last week
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Sure I heard Adam say we can compete with every club apart from Warrington and Leeds when it came to the cap on the radio last week
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| I blame it on Radford.
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| The season isn't over unless you mean in terms of winning a trophy as we have no chance of winning the Grand Final from fifth or sixth,
We have a battle to make the play offs as it looks to be between us and Rovers, possibly Cas. Connor back in, with Savelio and Taylor will help our cause but as Mrs B says we are really missing Josh Griffin.
We really need the Leigh and Salford games to be rescheduled as we should be wining them to boost our points percentage.
This year was always going to be tough - we appointed Brett Hodgson in late November. Compare that to Warrington with Wire and Cas with Radford - both announced in April for next season.
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| Quote ComeOnYouUll="ComeOnYouUll"The season isn't over unless you mean in terms of winning a trophy as we have no chance of winning the Grand Final from fifth or sixth,
We have a battle to make the play offs as it looks to be between us and Rovers, possibly Cas. Connor back in, with Savelio and Taylor will help our cause but as Mrs B says we are really missing Josh Griffin.
We really need the Leigh and Salford games to be rescheduled as we should be wining them to boost our points percentage.
This year was always going to be tough - we appointed Brett Hodgson in late November. Compare that to Warrington with Wire and Cas with Radford - both announced in April for next season.'"
I said this at the game. The covid break came at a bad time time us. We had a chance to build a bit of momentum after the hudds home game, that's all gone down the drain.
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| You dont need to spend big to compete, just better cap management and use youth, we have failed on both for top long.
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| Quote Chris71="Chris71"Spending big wasn’t what burnt AP’s fingers for me it was spending big but keeping the same coaching set up behind all the failures. Other than the 2 Cup wins which I shall be eternally grateful for we blew the best chance we’ve had at reaching and winning a GF in 2016 and never kicked on.'"
Spot on. Kept faith too long when a change should have been made far earlier.
People who criticise AP for getting rid of LR don’t realise it should have been done 18 months earlier at least.
BH is now trying to turn things around without much wriggle room in recruitment.
AP must have been gutted last night. Fairly decent crowd in the circumstances, and it falls flat again.
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."You dont need to spend big to compete, just better cap management and use youth, we have failed on both for top long.'"
But the youth has to be good enough.
Not seen any backs to be excited about and apart from Jack Brown not seen a forward with real potential
The difference between 18 year old Pryce at Huddersfield and 19 year old McNamara was astounding given McNamara has been around the first team squad for several months
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| Quote bonaire="bonaire"But the youth has to be good enough.
Not seen any backs to be excited about and apart from Jack Brown not seen a forward with real potential
The difference between 18 year old Pryce at Huddersfield and 19 year old McNamara was astounding given McNamara has been around the first team squad for several months'"
Pryce probably the wrong comparison - he has been a star throughout the youth levels and could be a once in a generation kind of player.
However, I agree on all the other points. I honestly think Abdull and Litten would massively improve us at the moment - players who Radford gave away. Our retention has been poor and done on sentiment rather than performance.
I think there are some promising kids coming through. Barron, Staveley, Burrell, Ferreira etc. so hopefully with the training centres we are strategically placing across the country, that can aid with the scouting of youth
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| I like Hodgson and for me the jury's out until the end of the season which is far from over even if our expected next 2 results end with similar outcome. But I'm not understanding his choices on the bench? We must have at present the smallest bench in the league, I like Scott but was he needed last night? same with jj when Cator can cover Houghton, we Have a man who would have out jumped Hurrell all night not in the 17 and a young forward with great potential also not in the 17 as far as we know neither injured?
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."You dont need to spend big to compete, just better cap management and use youth, we have failed on both for top long.'"
There are a number of influential factors. However, I’d argue that money is the single biggest one. It’s a question of degree, and unromantic, but imo it is likely bigger than the rest combined.
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