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| Quote ccs="ccs"Got it....
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Yeah, that’s the bit I found. So basically, if there are no more reserve games then Kelly is effectively banned forever.
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| You'd have thought that being selected in the SL squad prior to a ban would have been more logical than actually having to play a game.
As you say, he may never play again.
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Based on the operational rules the HDM are talking nonsense.
If only reserve games count then surely there is a loophole to exploit? He can't play against Newcastle so that means he becomes available for selection against Wigan.
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Based on the operational rules the HDM are talking nonsense.
If only reserve games count then surely there is a loophole to exploit? He can't play against Newcastle so that means he becomes available for selection against Wigan.
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| Quote Mr. Zucchini Head="Mr. Zucchini Head"Based on the operational rules the HDM are talking nonsense.
If only reserve games count then surely there is a loophole to exploit? He can't play against Newcastle so that means he becomes available for selection against Wigan.'"
Good try!!…
Quote Mr. Zucchini HeadIf a Player is suspended from playing in a Match, they shall not play in any other Match in the same Weekend but no more than one Match in any one Weekend shall count towards a Player's suspension. '"
I guess if wigan hadn't cancelled the reserve game we'd all be assuming (correctly) that the 2 match ban was now complete, and he'd be available to play against...wigan.
We would have been oblivious to the fact that neither SL game counted.
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| Quote ccs="ccs"Good try!!…
I guess if wigan hadn't cancelled the reserve game we'd all be assuming (correctly) that the 2 match ban was now complete, and he'd be available to play against...wigan.
The fact that neither SL game counted would have been irrelevant.'"
Don't worry, I've got another loophole.
There is nothing in the wording to indicate whether the player needs to have played a first team game this season. It just says "previously." Bans can be carried over from the previous season, so there is no reason to think everything resets just because it's a new season.
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| Quote Mr. Zucchini Head="Mr. Zucchini Head"Don't worry, I've got another loophole.
There is nothing in the wording to indicate whether the player needs to have played a first team game this season. It just says "previously." Bans can be carried over from the previous season, so there is no reason to think everything resets just because it's a new season.'"
That does sound more plausible.
I haven't found anything which may scupper it (yet).
Mentioning warm-up matches kind of suggests a season by season ruling.
Maybe the cancelled reserve game is the key - the rovers game (which didn't count at the time) had already been played before it was cancelled. Can we retrospectively claim the rovers game because there was no reserve match?
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| Quote ccs="ccs"That does sound more plausible.
I haven't found anything which may scupper it (yet).'"
I am just interested to know whether the HDM have actually been told about this by someone either from the club or RFL. Or if someone has just stumbled across these rules and made an assumption.
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| Quote Mr. Zucchini Head="Mr. Zucchini Head"I am just interested to know whether the HDM have actually been told about this by someone either from the club or RFL. Or if someone has just stumbled across these rules and made an assumption.'"
I can't imagine it's the club, the HDM have got it so wrong. Bans start at midnight on the day of the verdict.
I've just edited my previous post....
Quote Mr. Zucchini HeadMaybe the cancelled reserve game is the key - the rovers game (which didn't count at the time) had already been played before it was cancelled. Can we retrospectively claim the rovers game because there was no reserve match?'"
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| Quote ccs="ccs"I can't imagine it's the club, the HDM have got it so wrong. Bans start at midnight on the day of the verdict.
I've just edited my previous post....
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Agreed. He may well be banned, but not for the reasons they are reporting. There is no such thing as a ban that starts next week.
Personally I think someone has their wires crossed and that he will be selected on Sunday.
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The whole thing just seems odd. Radford doesn't even allude to the confusion or the current situation there. He just talks about the tackle itself. It sounds like a quote from a couple of weeks ago.
Who knows?
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The whole thing just seems odd. Radford doesn't even allude to the confusion or the current situation there. He just talks about the tackle itself. It sounds like a quote from a couple of weeks ago.
Who knows?
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