No, not from the players, although there appears to be a hell of a lot of that, but from some, and I emphasise the some, supporters.

People come on and pupport to be wakefield 'till I die etc... but as soon as the times get tough, be it the coaches fault, players fault or david camerons fault, they say OK I'm done! Never going again etc....

Not exactly Wakefield 'till I Die then is it!

It's more like Wakefield 'as long as we are winning or at least trying a bit.

No one wants to sit and watched a poorly coached team apparantly not try too hard and keep getting hammered, i agree, we may not want to, but as fans, that's what we do.

If (or when

) we get relegated, is that such a bad thing? Is Super league the be all and end all of Rugby League,

no of course it isn't. We have been in the lower tiers before, as have many other teams, and come back. Nothing to say we won't do it again.

I have seen some shocking half d performances from Trinity over the last 40 years, I have seen a team of Tryers get beat, and teams that were just going through the motions get beat. I don't have any answers, all i do is turn up, watch. enjoy (or not) and go home. It's not life or death, it's sport, we choose where to spend our money, if it is a the game great. if it;s not, so be it, BUT, if you claim to Wakefield 'till I die, you will be there, Good, Bad, Appalling, abject indifference or whatever.

For the record, i'm disillusioned with what's going on, but, I can't change it, i can voice my opinion, but it is down to them that run the club to do as they see fit.

Disagree with may, as I am sure many will, but I'll still be there at Leigh, Batley, Workington or wherever, will you?

was thinking same, every sings WTID and means it but everyone is feeling the pain, disappointment , frustration . They will mostly still be there at the next game, two weeks to get over todays disappointment and we will know the result of Bulls appeal by then also. No doubt we will have several players banned from todays game for incidents only the RFL panel see. ( ala Annakin ). Come on fans some of the players may have given up but we cant. [u#WTID[/u

Well if the players have given up what can we do?

Try and motivate them, show them that we still care about the performances, show that we haven't lost all faith - that kind of thing!



It may not be enough but they didn't coin the phrase "12th man" or 14th in this case for nothing.

This is starting to feel like the last couple of months of Tony Smiths reign. He was left in position too long and it nearly finished us, we are in danger of doing the same again. I think a fresh start now will see an upsurge in goodwill towards the club and people will get behind them. Letting the status quoremain may just be ringing its death knell as many have had as much as they can stomach and the desire just isn't there.

If the players needs us to motivate them they should be no where near the shirt.

look mate,what we have here is a cherished family pet which has just has a bus pass over it, any amount of shouting wont make any difference, remember it how it was, fun, lively entertaining, not the dull mess your looking at now.

Well I have full faith that this family pet is simply in a coma, and will be back to it's lively and entertaining self in the (hopefully near) future!

Whats that saying "Flogging a Dead Horse" That's what it feels like keep trying to get behind this lot to put a performance in.

IF Agar is to be sacked then it has to happen now. Ideal chance with the cup weekend to get someone new in and work with the players for a couple of weeks.



If not, then we just got to stick it through and hope Matt Ryan can drag us to a win or 2.