You’ve got to despair at times.



Ollie has some obvious potential and had a really good go in his last game but he’s not better than Lyne or Bill or Arundel.



Croft is closer and if we were short of centres then maybe.



Above all though you don’t want to bring youngsters into a demoralised team. It’s not just that we are losing we are low on confidence.



Matters at that age, there are exceptions, I don’t suppose it would have worried a young Danny Brough but they are rare.



It’s the senior players imho who need to step up we shouldn’t be expecting miracles from rookies.

Greensmith looked ok v dewsbury better than players who play sl.as for croft hes more than ready he did well last year and certainly more ready than the 2 wingers currently playing

Croft for me is the one who will be taking over from Tupou when he leaves Wakefield which may be end of this season?



J thought Croft did very well last season when called on and certainly looks the part.



I’m sure that sending him out for a string of games in the championship will help him progress further and I suspect in 2022 he will be our first choice left centre.

But Croft isn't a winger!



Kershaw, Kay and Senior are.



Greensmisth is better than players who play in SL, after one game against Championship Dewsbury in a friendly, seriously!



So what is your point?

Tupou is under contract for next season so i'd expect him to still be here.

There is a massive step up from u19s to A Team and another step up to Superleague standard. Unfortunately, the younger players have not had the ability to learn their trade at A Team level and are being asked to jump straight up to Superleague. Most good juniors dont make the adjustment and end up playing at Championship level. From what I have seen of both players, Croft is ahead of Greensmith in development but both players lack in pace, footwork, finesse and intelligence of good Superleague centres. That may come, but I dont see it at the moment. So whilst they have the capability to 'stand in' in terms of need, they are not obvious replacements for what we have got, and may end up being good Championship centres, unless they can dramatically progress.

Croft is better player than any of those wingers and he has played on the wing before i belive when he partnered junior sau although i could be mistaken



Greensmith i have seen more than the once as unlike you i dont just watch games on yyee i actually go watch academy and scholarship games.and had it not been for him we would of conceded another try v dewsbury saving a walker bacon in doing so.



So vastman my point been we have centres in lynne and billy who are more than capable of playing on the wing infact billy started his career as a winger so for me id rather see croft in centre and one of these on wing as i really dont like to knock players but tje wingers mentioned are not and never will be sl standard

So Croft is a better centre than Arundel, Lyne (GB Player) and Tupou. You must think this or you wouldn't shove them on the wing. He isn't.



Lyne was never really a winger and hasn't played there in years, why would you even contemplate it.



Croft a better winger than Kay or Kershaw, even when he's played wing he's not been great, so bad actually that he made that many howlers at the Leeds Boxing day game they took him off! He's a centre, end of.



Greensmith has played one first-team game yet you want to put him in and push Lyne or Tupou or even Croft (a more experienced player) onto the wing, really?



I honestly can't take you seriously at times.

Batch is a better plater than those wingers too and has played as many times on the wing as Croft. So should we play him there too?



It is good for Croft to get some real game time in his preferred position. He'll come back stronger.

You really are cluless dont think i know anybody who think they know so much but actully know nothing.



Read (thats if you can) what i say i think croft is a better player than the wingers playing therefore play billy in his nautraul postion of wing (lets be honest he hasnt done nothing in last 2 years at centre)billy is a better winger than those playing thus creating a centre spot for arundal or croft this could also work on the other wing with lynne who as also played wing many a time ( a GB player you say but he never played for GB again shows your lack of knowledge)and again a player of better quality coming into the side. For me this would improve and make the back line stronger as there is better calibre of players there.of course keep playing players whos mistakes/lack of quality are constantly costing the team trys.



Has for players been slightly out of postion yep maye so but no more than jc at hooker walker at 6 westerman at prop jowitt at 6 or even kelepi atprop

I must admit I do also think that Tupou should play on the wing, purely on the basis that our wingers are expected to drive the ball out from our own areas.

For me its about getting best players out there and trying to get a win

I read what you said, and like a few other posters, I think it nonsense. If you're clued up I'll remain clueless thanks

That would be the way i’d go, with Lyne and Arundel in the centres, although i’d have been quite happy to see Croft given a go at centre. He’s got something about him.

So why do you want Croft on the wing then?

I'd happily play Tupou on the wing with Arundal and Lyne.

The other wingers each have pros and cons

Assuming a deep kicking game Kershaw is best at kick return.

But poor at defending the high ball.

I genuinely didn’t think Kershaw was good enough as defending kicks he’s a liability and prone to big errors that turn over possession. However, I thought he was pretty good against Hull and I may have been a little hasty to write him off completely.



As you say though he needs to keep working on fielding kicks and not losing the concentration. Last weeks game was a good start and I hope he can build on that.



I’m not a fan of Tupou at wing personally. He always looks to be blowing out of his behind on the wing and other than a cracking game vs Wigan a few years ago he’s always been better at centre for me. He’s not been performing as he should at centre though for a long time and I think Arundel has been good Since he’s come in so personally I’d be tempted to leave Bill out this week.



Tough choice for Chester on whether to put him back in but he can count himself lucky if he gets in ahead of Arundel imo.

No I will get shot down, but Arundel is a guy who as been built up buy the fans to be a world beater. He is ok but not as good as some make out

Better than GI for me

See i say topou on wing croft in centre and best players out there croft is better than current wingers so yeah get our better players in....like i say you dont read just what you think you want to

Thats my think with lee 4 scores have been scored in last 2 games through his failure to deal withkicks

Blake Austin made available to Super League clubs with Warrington Wolves future looking uncertain



The marquee halfback, who was not selected for last week's win in Perpignan, has been offered to other clubs.



Would we be interested be interested?

Great player but another maverick not a controller. Doubt we could afford nor interest him.

It's lost on me - he is out of contract at the end of this season...but Wire are offering him round for NEXT season.



It's surely his agent doing the offering, rather than Wire...but maybe they would be open to letting him go early - fee free - to get him off the wage bill?



I predict Leigh!