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| One thing that I will say and I don't think this is an over reaction, is that we seem to have an inability, or lack of urgency (as a club) to fix things on the fly.
A few examples from previous seasons - Field getting injured in the 1st game in his 1st season at the club but he wasn't replaced. Burgess not being fit and having to suffer Clarke and Clubb. Why didn't we sign a prop? Lam was well out of his depth, but kept on until the end of the year and it all just fizzled out. A full season a couple of years back with Faz/Isa filling in at centre, with no hint of us rectifying it, despite having a powder puff pack and not much going on.
Now to this year - Cooper is out for the season. He's a massive loss on the field and, like others have pointed out, he was growing into a leadership role at the club too. Add in the loss of Bateman from an experience and leadership POV and it's obvious we need to get someone in.
Likewise, the attack is clunky and gone back. Briers has gone and it's not got the same zip. Just go and get Gleeson in as a coach. He's a proven coach with a good rep. Don't let everyone suffer out of misguided loyalty to "what we've got". We all want to see Peet succeed - so help him out.
As we've seen over the last month - confidence is hard won and easily lost. Once it's gone, then it's a big shift to get it back. We're half way through the season (ish). Freshen it up and don't let the season fizzle away into a "if only we didn't have those injuries".
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| Agreed. We have a couple of obvious deficiencies and we should address these and we have an outstanding chance of having a great season.
Ignore them and 'trust our process' and we have an outside chance of having a great season.
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| too soft, didnt want to roll their sleeves up, when it got too hard they shrank away, total lack of on field leadership
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| Well in the cold light of day all I can say is that was absolute poop, never seen a team fold like that after the opposition gets a man sent off.
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| PS, can't understand why Hampshire wasn't given a run in the reserves last night, bizarre not to get some minutes in his legs
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| Quote NSW="NSW"Did you watch him trying to make tackles last night?'"
Obvious downside admittedly but I do think it’s worth a shot. Especially when we’ve got Field back and hopefully in the halves
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| Cust is a no from me at 13 - his defense is nowhere near good enough and he would probably only last half a game before getting injured. Sadly he is not turning out to be the player he seemed at first which is a shame as when he first arrived I thought he looked a decent player. Smithies is not a 13 either - should be in the second row, 13 is a position we have not really filled since SOL finished.Shorrocks would be worth a shout there I think - he has slighly more to his game than other other back rowers. We are going to have to sort out quite a lot in the pack going forward - Singo and Mago going (likely) Copper out long term , Isa nearing the end of his career and Farrell looking less effective these days. Some big calls to be made.
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| Quote apollosghost="apollosghost"PS, can't understand why Hampshire wasn't given a run in the reserves last night, bizarre not to get some minutes in his legs'"
With Cust not being 100% they wanted him 18th man as cover.
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| Quote exiled Warrior="exiled Warrior"Cust is a no from me at 13 - his defense is nowhere near good enough and he would probably only last half a game before getting injured. Sadly he is not turning out to be the player he seemed at first which is a shame as when he first arrived I thought he looked a decent player. Smithies is not a 13 either - should be in the second row, 13 is a position we have not really filled since SOL finished.Shorrocks would be worth a shout there I think - he has slighly more to his game than other other back rowers. We are going to have to sort out quite a lot in the pack going forward - Singo and Mago going (likely) Copper out long term , Isa nearing the end of his career and Farrell looking less effective these days. Some big calls to be made.'"
Fair enough, understand your point in I don’t disagree much.
I do think however Singleton would be a loss bigger than most would admit to. He’s a grafter prop, always up for the hard stuff and rarely lets the side down. Yes he doesn’t make many yards or dazzles in defence but he is effective for what he does. He’s the type of prop clubs need alongside your meter makers and hard defensive hitters. Plus he doesn’t cost the world either, for me we should be looking to keep him and raise cash elsewhere from Mago/Isa/Cust (maybe) leaving. I’d also include Thornley in that list but I am open to keeping him on board too.
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| Quote 100% Warrior="100% Warrior"Fair enough, understand your point in I don’t disagree much.
I do think however Singleton would be a loss bigger than most would admit to. He’s a grafter prop, always up for the hard stuff and rarely lets the side down. Yes he doesn’t make many yards or dazzles in defence but he is effective for what he does. He’s the type of prop clubs need alongside your meter makers and hard defensive hitters. Plus he doesn’t cost the world either, for me we should be looking to keep him and raise cash elsewhere from Mago/Isa/Cust (maybe) leaving. I’d also include Thornley in that list but I am open to keeping him on board too.'"
Singleton will be missed. A few fans don’t get what he brings to the table…even in the wake of the last couple of weeks since he had been missing.
He’s an old school poop house who does stuff others won’t in contact. He does the stuff that makes the likes of Havard not have to.
I’m sure our recruitment is at an advanced stage, we do though need someone to step into that role moving forward, most likely Cooper pre injury but there is now a big question mark over his fitness/recovery.
Thornley for me needs to be let go. He’s solid enough but he isn’t a starter and probably next year blocks the path of Eckersley from progressing into his next natural squad place as first back reserve.
I think Isa dictates his own future. Mago and Cust need to go for me.
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| Quote WWste="WWste"What happened in the reserve game? Said there was an injury and the game was called off'"
Toby Warren from Leeds felt a crack in his neck and back and couldn`t move his legs.
However he is ok and recovering and is waiting to see what the long term impact will be.
He was full of praise for all the Wigan staff who looked after him.
And hats off to Mat Peet who texted him to see how he was.
Full of admiration for your coach from a Leeds fan. 
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| Quote chapylad="chapylad"Toby Warren from Leeds felt a crack in his neck and back and couldn`t move his legs.
However he is ok and recovering and is waiting to see what the long term impact will be.
He was full of praise for all the Wigan staff who looked after him.
And hats off to Mat Peet who texted him to see how he was.
Full of admiration for your coach from a Leeds fan.
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good news
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