I'm glad you no longer coach with a mentality like that, what are the other kids going to learn or even improve on if that is your overall plan, at junior level it is about developing players and not a win at all costs

I actually had no problems with the first Hall try, he had the ball gripped in his hand, as he was going over the side lines he put the ball down with his hand gripped on the side of the ball, there didnt appear to be any kind of bobble or bounce that I could see, the second one he clearly dropped it as you could see from the angle from the opposite side of the field, he had to use his other hand to put the ball down, plus shaking your head when putting it down just says all that needs to be said

Farrell pass for Miski’s try in the last minute was sublime.

Last three seconds you mean, hooter went as Miski put the ball down.





Potentially up there with 'Renouf to Radlinski' but without the winning kick.

Kept a little multi bet alive I have on, which included an anytime try for Miski.



Leave it late why don’t you. The Lebanese Tank is going great at the minute.

you had 6 players out and we had 5 out, we had a winger at fullback and a hooker at scrum half so not quite not far off full strength.



the big difference was out and out speed last night, you've got it in French and Marshall (Field too) and we don't, i think we gave French too much respect last night, our centres just didn't look comfortable at all when he popped up around the back and kept rushing in to try and sort him out leaving two on ones. still 3rd in the league and much improved on the last few seasons so its not the end of the world, as disappointing as a golden point loss is.



oh and i reckon Smithies will get a game or two ban for his cheap shot on Parcell.

Agreed. That was stupid and served no purpose whatsoever. Plus, it was out of synch with the rest of the game, most of which was played in a good spirit.



I have no issue with Hull KR being a top side and I look forward to many more tussles with them. They are a hugely improved operation, have good players and a quality coach in Willie Peters.



My objection is with the way the Sky pundits presented it as if the Wigan win was somehow unfair, as if HKR had won some kind of moral victory. For me, that was pure defensiveness in light of the way they'd talked Rovers up during the game. The overegging the Ryan Hall 'try' was a classic example of this. At best, that score was highly questionable, yet the praise they heaped on the scorer was ludicrously OTT.



As I said before, they did the same thing when it was Leigh v Wigan. We barely got a mention, until it became obvious that Leigh were facing a massacre.



Something seriously wrong with that commentary team. It isn't just amateurishness.

Sky seems to go into a game with a pre-determined narrative and will stick with it regardless of what goes on on the pitch.



We've seen for example, Leeds get out played in many games yet they find a way to win right at the death and the story is very different to Wigan, where we seem criticised for not doing better.



The narrative last night was how great HKR are doing and they deserved to win.

That's true, but it's just confirmation bias, isn't it? You see it in all sports and with all commentators. They start the game with a script already written in their heads, and look for evidence to support it. Even the likes of Cooper Cronk, who has forgotten more about rugby league than most of us know, is not immune.

Smithies no further action "used forearm to keep opponent down" "didn't drop" or words to that effect

There was nothing in that - just a silly second push on the floor.

Ethan Ryan broke his jaw in that game,

Wigan have sent him a get well card and a hamper of sorts.

Well done Wigan!