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| Quote Ashmeister="Ashmeister"Cant quite see whats so funny with my opinion on Sam Tomkins.
Ritchie Myler this season, as been the better player of the two. Eastmond on the other hand as been injured.
Hopefully Kyle is fully fit now and can enjoy the rest of the season. Starting with Murrayfield.'"
There is no doubting Myler has been awesome this season and has probably been the better of the 2 but he has already had a full season of first team rugby and is playing 80 minutes a game in a poor team so the players around him make him look even better (not having a dig at him there just my opinion, I'd take him at Wigan in a second) whereas Sam has had a handful of games used mainly in bursts where he has been outstanding.
It was your other comments about Ainscough, if he was wearing a red V would you still give it Briscoe or Owen over him, would you F**K. Shaun has been brilliant but he does have trouble with positioning from kicks but that can be sorted out with a few hours on the training ground.
Myler outplayed Sam when Wigan played Salford? Did you go? If you did you would have recognised that Myler got on the end of a grubber and supported a break and Sam scored a fantastic solo effort and finished a breakaway. Other than that I thought they were about equal, Myler's defence was shaky that night too though.
And the Eastmond comment, the guy kicks a goal and a drop goal and suddenly he is the better player 
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| If the general rule (as applied by Saints fans) is that Myler is a better player than Tomkins because he plays and impresses in a Salford side that is poorer than Wigan's side, then by that reasoning none of the Saints youngsters can be any good since they play alongside better players.
Jokin apart, it is much easier for the likes of an Eastmond and Clough to look decent when they are surrounded by established players used to a degree of success.
As for Myler - great attacking player and close to Tomkins in that regard, but Sam's defence is a world better for a player of his size.
Ainy needs work and will never be good in the air due to his size - then again I'll take his current tries to games ratio in a lower table side as enough evidence that he should be contending for YPOTY.
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| Quote Ashmeister="Ashmeister"Cant quite see whats so funny with my opinion on Sam Tomkins.
Ritchie Myler this season, as been the better player of the two. Eastmond on the other hand as been injured.
Hopefully Kyle is fully fit now and can enjoy the rest of the season. Starting with Murrayfield.'"
And that, my friend, is why you aren't being taken seriously.
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| Quote kirkamania6="kirkamania6"
And the Eastmond comment, the guy kicks a goal and a drop goal and suddenly he is the better player
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I think most Saints fans views of Eastmond are formed on slightly more viewings than 1 match this season.
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| Quote Billinge_Lump="Billinge_Lump"I think most Saints fans views of Eastmond are formed on slightly more viewings than 1 match this season.'"
True , but how much have they seen of Sam Tomkins?
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| Quote Billinge_Lump="Billinge_Lump"I think most Saints fans views of Eastmond are formed on slightly more viewings than 1 match this season.'"
They said that Eastmond looked the more dangerous of the 2 when we played on Maundy Thursday and tbh Eastmond did 2 things that match, kicked a goal, kicked a drop goal. Hardly looking dangerous whereas I think even you will agree Sam had a good game.
We're all entitled to our opinions but I thought that one was unfair on Sam 
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"True , but how much have they seen of Sam Tomkins?'"
Depends how many matches they've seen on the tv.
Tbh, a lot of this ing contest bores me.
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| Quote kirkamania6="kirkamania6"They said that Eastmond looked the more dangerous of the 2 when we played on Maundy Thursday and tbh Eastmond did 2 things that match, kicked a goal, kicked a drop goal. Hardly looking dangerous whereas I think even you will agree Sam had a good game.
We're all entitled to our opinions but I thought that one was unfair on Sam
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You would lol.
I wasn't overly impressed with Tomkins performance against us that day, considering the amount of possession you had I thought he may have created more. However it was probably his first really big match, which may have had an effect and I wouldn't say he was poor.
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| Supposedly Eastmond has a big issue with his shoulders which is why Saints do not play him very often. Of the two i would say Eastmond is probably the more devastating runner but Tomkins does have organisational qualities that we have yet to see him do in a first team shirt.
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| Scott Moore should be in with a very strong chance.
He only turned 21 earlier this year and has been winning MOM awards for Hudds on a pretty regular basis, and has managed to keep a test international hooker in the form of David Faiumu out of that position.
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| Sam just needs that extra bit of confidence to take on the line for me.
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