But imo the real reason for them is not so much the fact that he is sub par, but that he is sub par AND taking up CC space.



Remove the CC and the last part would not be an issue.

Are you seriously suggesting that underperforming big name signings get no flak in any other sport not subject to the SC? And that big name RL signings got no flak pre SC?



Your obsession with blaming the cap for everything is hilarious.

Of course I am not. Now kindly re-read the post before you post bollox. I know it's hard for you, but try and read the post.

Ah OK, sorry for the misunderstanding, I thought you said:







Which is clearly nonsense when referring to a player bought for a world record fee and on the highest wages at the club.

And I stand by it.





The real reason people have an issue with SF is that he is taking up a large slice of the CC and not performing.



Take away the artificial situation under the CC and there would be a lot less concern from the Wigan fans (of which you are clearly not one, but like other Stains fans you recognise Wigan as being the largest and most famous RL club in the world, and hang around on our forum like a lost puppy).

I doubt many, if any, other Wigan fans would. Big name flops have always been subject to ridicule.







Like any Saints fan I recognise Wigan as our local rivals and enjoy reading about your worst start to a season, certainly from a home perspective, in years. Especially 2 days after a derby.



I think Hock's passport was hidden by salary cap auditors by the way.

Wake up and smell the coffee.



There's a great post on the Sts board about how things have turned full circle since the early 90s. If boot was on other foot, we Sainst fans might have been getting excited about a new signing and running the Piesclose but the reality is that Saints were a shadow of the team that beat Leeds and still had enough in the tank to beat a Wigan side at near full tilt.



My view on Wigan?



#No long term policy, poor coach and too often doing too much tinkering in off season thinking success can be signed in. You may have turned a corner in Tomkins and the like but you said it a few years back with Robinson/Brown/Danny Sculthorpe and what happened to them?



You have some good young players but do lack a leader and cutting edge in attack (bar Hock who is class).



Get shot of Nobby (he's taking you nowhere) and bring in a better coach who can be trusted to build a side over 3-4 years around Tomkins/Leulai/Hock and you other younger better players.



You need to dispsense with the likes of Riddell, Roberts, Phelps and Coley - not good enough

justin morgan would be the man for me

If he was given 3 yrs he could do a good job. If he is given 6 months he wont

I've been a solid Noble supporter but I am losing my rag with, well it can only be described as a sh*t, embarrassing side with no bottle, no courage, no f*cking pride and they don't seem to give a toss.



I'm sorry but Mr Noble, your time at Wigan is coming to an end.

I too am losing it with Noble.



His biggest mistake is keeping Lockers as captain.



I've not seen a more inept display as captain in a long, long time.





Absolutely woeful.





Frankly any coach who thinks that is a captains knock needs to be sacked.