The only times he stood out for me was when he side stepped the Leeds defence and passed the ball for Chris Ashton to score against them in 2006 (on that try of the season video.) And that Saints game in 2007 on the last game of the regular season was his best he ever had.

Thats was his overall contribution for three years service

True. Well overrated by the Leeds fans, as they do with all their players.

This guy had 8 shockers in 1997



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How about Doc Murray in his first match?



That was the first time in years when I actually thought: "Crikey, we've bought a lemon!"



He probably played a few more matches that season, but he lost the crowd on that very first appearance, when he seemed to think that playing at Wigan's pace was too much trouble.

... and then became reincarnated as 'Richie Mathers' circa 2008





Whoever suggested the game that ended mathers' career was the wakey one?! The game that should have ended his career was millenium magic last year...yet we had a spineless coach who continued to let him off and forget his failings!!



At least it only took the wigan coach in 1997 6 games to realise murry was woeful....its taken the current one 'a season and a half not out' with mathers!



Though it is official...mathers is better than murry.......as that link proves murry never scored for wigan...mathers has ONE try so must be better

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doc_Murray What a distinguished career eh?!?! Who ever signed him at wigan should never be employed again!! Really dark times for the club then...murry,koloi, lester, Lee hansen etc!! at least now we only have the odd one or two to worry about!! Mathers must be so pleased for that signing 12 years ago though....but for offering doc murray a trial mathers would have the distinction of Wigan RLFCs Worst Ever Full Back!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doc_Murray What a distinguished career eh?!?! Who ever signed him at wigan should never be employed again!! Really dark times for the club then...murry,koloi, lester, Lee hansen etc!! at least now we only have the odd one or two to worry about!! Mathers must be so pleased for that signing 12 years ago though....but for offering doc murray a trial mathers would have the distinction of Wigan RLFCs Worst Ever Full Back!

Dont remember him signing for the Wire, do they not want Mathers as well?

Played 3 games as sub. Under the name David Murray





25/8/1997 to 5/09/1997



We had Mathers for a season as a youngster & he was excellent.

but he back for the 4th game into the season

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Quote dave2311="dave2311"Was that not Desi Williams? If not then he had a similar shocker at Cas on Sky.'" yer it was mate, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desi_Williams Quote dave2311 He was given his chance in the first team at Wigan Warriors in 2004. After a decent first game he was criticised for his bad performance a week later against Castleford Tigers in which he dropped numerous high ball's in dangerous territory and was subsequently dropped the week later.'"

one of these two John Monie / Eric Hughes