|
 |
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 432 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2014 | 11 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Phuzzy="Phuzzy"Mate, you've already admitted you don't understand the rule. If you've convinced yourself that's not a charge down, then enjoy your delusion.'"
The only delusion here is yours mate. That it wasn’t a charge down is a fact, as it wasn’t given as one.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4722 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote The Reaper="The Reaper"The only delusion here is yours mate. That it wasn’t a charge down is a fact, as it wasn’t given as one.'"
thats like saying none of the tackles asiata put in against leigh were foul play.....they werent given as one
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 432 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2014 | 11 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Pieman="Pieman"thats like saying none of the tackles asiata put in against leigh were foul play.....they werent given as one'"
And the MRP didn’t either so unfortunately, yes, this is bizarrely a fact at this moment in time. Hopefully common sense will prevail and it won’t be for much longer
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 5523 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote The Reaper="The Reaper"The only delusion here is yours mate. That it wasn’t a charge down is a fact, as it wasn’t given as one.'"
So there's no such thing as an incorrect decision in your world? Interesting. I look forward to your support of all decisions that go against your team too in that case.
I won't hold my breath...
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 7439 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Whilst you may believe it was a charge down, and I do too FWIW, the simple fact is it wasn’t as it wasn’t given.
Even so, we had plenty of opportunities to put KR to bed in that game but made some bizarre attacking choices. I’m not saying you’re hanging the loss on the chargedown like some are but that’s a bit of a cop out. We had our chances and we blew them.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 5523 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote 100% Warrior="100% Warrior"Whilst you may believe it was a charge down, and I do too FWIW, the simple fact is it wasn’t as it wasn’t given.
Even so, we had plenty of opportunities to put KR to bed in that game but made some bizarre attacking choices. I’m not saying you’re hanging the loss on the chargedown like some are but that’s a bit of a cop out. We had our chances and we blew them.'"
Mate, it wasn't RULED as a charge down by the referee on the day. That doesn't mean it wasn't one. The two things aren't interchangeable. An error of judgement doesn't magically change reality. That is saying no decision is ever incorrect which is simply not true.
If you believe that any error is made correct by the ruling at the time, how do you explain overturned convictions for example? We'd still have innocent people languishing in jail if we believed that theory. Luckily the world at large doesn't. The fact that you do still doesn't make it correct.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 7439 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Phuzzy="Phuzzy"Mate, it wasn't RULED as a charge down by the referee on the day. That doesn't mean it wasn't one. The two things aren't interchangeable. An error of judgement doesn't magically change reality. That is saying no decision is ever incorrect which is simply not true.
If you believe that any error is made correct by the ruling at the time, how do you explain overturned convictions for example? We'd still have innocent people languishing in jail if we believed that theory. Luckily the world at large doesn't. The fact that you do still doesn't make it correct.'"
Mate that’s like comparing apples and tomatoes because they’re the same shape. It wasn’t a chargedown because the referee didn’t give it and that decision is irreversible. A wrongful conviction at court is reversible.
Even so, using that as an excuse - which I’m not suggesting you are by the way - is straw grabbing.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 5523 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote 100% Warrior="100% Warrior"Mate that’s like comparing apples and tomatoes because they’re the same shape. It wasn’t a chargedown because the referee didn’t give it and that decision is irreversible. A wrongful conviction at court is reversible.
Even so, using that as an excuse - which I’m not suggesting you are by the way - is straw grabbing.'"
The death penalty isn't reversible. Doesn't mean that they don't get them wrong as history clearly shows.
Anyway, aren't you being a bit hypocritical here? If you believe that whether something is irreversible is the defining factor on whether something is right or wrong, why are you even on a forum discussing things you can't change? When you say "the coaching staff got X or Y wrong" (sic), they defacto can't have done as it's irreversible.
The fact that it was RULED as not a charge down doesn't preclude it from being the wrong decision. The 2 aren't mutually exclusive.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 7439 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Phuzzy="Phuzzy"The death penalty isn't reversible. Doesn't mean that they don't get them wrong as history clearly shows.
Anyway, aren't you being a bit hypocritical here? If you believe that whether something is irreversible is the defining factor on whether something is right or wrong, why are you even on a forum discussing things you can't change? When you say "the coaching staff got X or Y wrong" (sic), they defacto can't have done as it's irreversible.
The fact that it was RULED as not a charge down doesn't preclude it from being the wrong decision. The 2 aren't mutually exclusive.'"
Again, comparing apples and tomatoes here. The irony is we both agree and disagree at the same time
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 5523 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote 100% Warrior="100% Warrior"Again, comparing apples and tomatoes here. The irony is we both agree and disagree at the same time'"
Only in your opinion mate. Given that no two examples can be, by definition, exactly the same I reckon they stand comparison. There are enough similarities to show principle. I would similarly argue that your points of difference are purely pedantic rather than having any real insight. It's all a matter of opinion.
I think we agree that it was a charge down as you've already said as much 
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 7439 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Phuzzy="Phuzzy"Only in your opinion mate. Given that no two examples can be, by definition, exactly the same I reckon they stand comparison. There are enough similarities to show principle. I would similarly argue that your points of difference are purely pedantic rather than having any real insight. It's all a matter of opinion.
I think we agree that it was a charge down as you've already said as much
'"
Fair enough 
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Fringe Player | 2382 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2022 | 3 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Phuzzy="Phuzzy"You've misunderstood what a charge down is. If the player moves towards the kicker with arms up it's a charge down irrespective of where it hits or whether he turns his head.
It was a charge down. The ref got it wrong.'"
The rules:
Charging Down is blocking the path of the ball with hands, arm or body as it rises from an opponent's kick.
Phuzzy is correct.
|
|
|
 |
|