At last a sensible post.

We all wish we hadnt lost the early games, but anybody that cant see the improvements must just have an agenda or axe to grind.

It's not getting rid of him before the end of the season that could be difficult, it's replacing him before then.



I too feel that Noble has taken us as far as he's capable, and that the club should act accordingly. But we have to get the right person to replace him, and that may take time.

Grr get behind Noble and the team, then if he leaves forget him if you want but while he is at Wigan I am behind him and the team 100%

Now, now. There's no need for abuse. If you don't agree with me then fine.



Many posters on this thread seem to be satisfied with a narrow defeat to Saints even if the rest of the season so far has been poor.



I do have "an axe to grind" which is that this is not good enough for Wigan. Maybe you all have different ideas about what Wigan's standards should be, perhaps you're all happy with 3 wins from 9 and a narrow defeat to Saints at home. I'm not.



The point I was making was that both the inconsistency so far this season and the lack of attacking moves are BN's responsibility at the end of the day. I stand by that.



To be honest I am amazed that Noble has so many defenders, most of the people that I spoke to last night are fed up with the poor tactics, poor preparation and the boring one-man style of rugby that BN favours.

The fact is at times we were stood still in attack with no runners. Players were stood still when taking the ball. It was the same last night at times as it has been all season.



Likewise we have conceded tries close to our line all season. We often spend time in the opposition half but come up with little or nothing then as soon as they get a sniff of our line they are in. That is exactly what happened last night but has been this way all season.



Dave

Don't disagree. Sadly though I think there's a big chance our season will be over in a few weeks' time. That's a depressing thought.



What I can't understand is why Noble still has so many supporters when the team is not delivering good performances (let alone winnning) on a consistent basis.

I don't think he will have for long. It possibly depends on what happens in the cup, given that the league's already long gone.



One thing's for sure. People will no longer be fooled by the end of season spurt (assuming it happens with no Trent Barrett to inspire it).

?????





The league only starts in 3 or 4 months time.

LOL, talk about wanting a man to fail!

Agree



i believe we need change but i would never wish anyone to fail

One other way to look at it is that so long as Noble is able to keep Wigan afloat - at mid-table or slightly higher - the more difficult it is for the club to replace him. Whereas, if we drop to the bottom of the table, there'll be no option and no argument.



I don't want us to be cellar dwellers, but neither do I wish us to continue indefinitely with a coach who is looking increasingly out of his depth at the higher end of SL.



Last night was a classic illustration. We did the hard work. We matched Saints in the middle of the field for a lot of the game. But when it came to being clever and putting our chances away with smart attacking moves, we were bereft of ideas.



We also - yet again, and once again it was a fatal error - went to sleep for about twenty minutes in the second half. That shows a lack of mental toughness.



Both of these fundamental problems can be laid at the door of the head-coach. If not him, who else?



He's been one of the longest serving coaches we've had for some time, yet we've not visibly improved under him, even though on paper we're probably a better side than we were when he took over.



I don't want to see him sacked - I feel that would cause disruption and would be poor reward for a man who's not been successful rather than has actually failed. But I want to see a modern, forward-thinking coach take over when Nobby's contract expires at the end of this season.

Exactly RHJ, composure is what we lack when we get behind in games as happens so often.. Had we shown a bit more composure we would have beaten Wakefield, Hull, Castleford and probably Wakefield, but we didn't. Coaching composure and having a plan B when the chips are down is obviously not one of Noble's strong points.