Do you know when?

Try England's in Pem, also a shop in Billinge



Meat from independent butchers is bound to cost more than the tasteless cack served up by the multinational faceless money generators like Tesco. Keep it local!!!

That's what i'm trying to do, but with working Mon-Fri in Manchester by the time i get home shops are closed.

That's why i thought somewhere in Wigan would have a farm shop to nip to on a Saturday morning. But looking at it, it's going to be a bit of a drive to get my veg.

Not only that word has it that they provide a quantity of meat for Chaddys in Standish.



Chaddys is overrated and expensive.

Nip to Pem on a Saturday morning. There's a veg shop across the road as well I think.

Think the Veg shops near Halfway House. They always have "LOCAL GROWN PRODUCE" signs outside. Now how local that is i dont know, someone back garden in Kitt Green

If you absolutely have to buy meat from a supermarket, try to ensure it's from a meat counter where you can tell the butcher what you want. If getting it off a display shelf buy organic (for taste) and ensure you look at the meat under the main shop lights, not the undershelf lighting as, daft as it sounds, you can't see so well.



Remember, you can get rubbish from any place; go in to wherever, tell them they were recommended as they don't serve crap. Hopefully you'll then get something decent. All you have to do then is cook it without mullering it!

Is that Bilko shpuds and shprouts Ltd?

The best butchers I have found is in Heskin. Its close to the house WRLFC rent. Think Piggy is in there at the moment. Its only small but the quality is fantastic. I know Craig Smith had a few full pigs from there for his BBQ when he was in the house. Its family run and very friendly. There is also a good one next to The Blue Elephant, its a farm shop and interesting just to walk around. Just down the road is a farm shop that does fresh veg.

This year will be my last of buying fresh veg in, I am part way through putting up my green house and have two big veg planters/patches in the building stage. If all goes to plan I will be growing more than i can eat and will be giving them away.

Couldn't disagree more with you Gareth, the quality of Chadwicks is outstanding. When we get steaks / burgers / mice meat from there its far better than anything on the indoor market.

You told me it was beef?!

Ahh feck you knew I meant mince beef!





Although at Wigan market you may well be getting mice meat...