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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"If so that is new for this season. You have never done it before. Your success has always been built on bringing players in from outside for years now. Players like Sculthorpe, Long, Iro, Lyon, Gilmour, Anderson, Wilkin, Gardner, Pryce, Fozzard, Gidley, Meli (the list goes on longer than that as well) have been the cornerstone of your success NOT home grown players. So don't be so smug and it will be interesting to see how you do go with home grown talent as opposed to the way your club has operated for the last 10 years.
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I'd agree with that, our youth systems have been poor for years, however we're now seeing the benefits of investment in that area (starting with Millward and improved dramatically by Anderson) and hopefully we'll see a few a year being able to be brought into the first team squad.
Considering that people on here keep banging on about how good your youth set up is, and have been for years, what's your excuse? |
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Ouch theres a few home truths in that article...
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Home grown as in local?
That's what this debate was about and you know it.
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| Quote Billinge_Lump="Billinge_Lump"I'd agree with that, our youth systems have been poor for years, however we're now seeing the benefits of investment in that area (starting with Millward and improved dramatically by Anderson) and hopefully we'll see a few a year being able to be brought into the first team squad.
Considering that people on here keep banging on about how good your youth set up is, and have been for years, what's your excuse?'"
Who has been banging on about our youth set up?
There was a massive overhaul of the youth development last year so even the club have recognised it is struggling... |
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Got a feeling it would be much easier for Wigan to integrate the likes of Tomkins, Ainscough, Mossop, Thornley etc. into a confident and successful first team squad rather than the one we currently have. That said, surely they couldn't do worse than some of our "experienced first teamers" appear to be doing?
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| Quote saints35 bulls0="saints35 bulls0"
as for the Grand Final last year, 9 out of the starting 13 were home grown, something which Wigan can only dream of.
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Nice spin.
Try 5 of the 17. |
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Only two local in the starting 13.
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I'm fed up of reading this absolute rubbish.
Wigan brought through loads of youngsters but at the time there was the 20/20 in force which meant a club could only pay 20 players a living wage.
RFL/SL clubs also included the salaries of younger players in the salary cap so if you'd twice as many quality younger players as other clubs you couldn't pay them (SC) and couldn't have them in numbers (20/20)
Super League clubs and RFL have now abolished the 20/20/25 rule and amended the salary cap. Hence other clubs now are better able include their youngsters than they have been in years past, if they had any!
Andy should perhaps look at the fact that there are only half as many British players in SL now compared to when it started in 1996.
Also Saints are looking good with their younger players and Wigan's younger players are nowhere?
So which only other club competed with Saints in the U21 & U18s finals last season?
Clue, they are west of the Pennines and it wasn't Salford or Wire.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Only two local in the starting 13.'"
check your figures again. |
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| Quote [J-90="[J-90"Got a feeling it would be much easier for Wigan to integrate the likes of Tomkins, Ainscough, Mossop, Thornley etc. into a confident and successful first team squad rather than the one we currently have. That said, surely they couldn't do worse than some of our "experienced first teamers" appear to be doing?'"
Atleast they would relish the chance of a first team place and make the most of it |
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| Quote saints35 bulls0="saints35 bulls0"check your figures again.'"
Roby and Cunningham.
Graham is from Liverpool.
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| Quote saints35 bulls0 wrote: indeed - Saints have taken a conscious decision to operate below the salary cap and promote the young players through the squad. We have space on the cap to spend - but have chosen not to. '"
And if it all goes belly up for you this year and you finish say 4th (dont think it will happen but IF) Do you think the club will still be taking this view? |
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