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| Not another referee thread? Sigh
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| Quote northernbloke="northernbloke"Not another referee thread? Sigh'"
If they done the job they were paid to do and you did not keep defending them referees would not be mentioned on the this forum.
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| I never mentioned them.
But the other view is if the players didn’t cheat you wouldn’t need a ref.
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| The time change of the Salford game actually helps me but I'll miss the Halifax game.
Booked up for a function in Surrey on the following Saturday that starts as we kick off, had booked a hotel nearby so as not to have to drive back to Kent that night and then haveto drive back to Ealing on the Sunday for the last scheduled home game of the season. Thanks a lot!
As for the double header , how can it have taken so long to have organised one? And with our reduced circumstances maybe next season we could reciprocate and have one at their place? Either way I think it is a good thing that the double headers are reinstated.
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| Quote northernbloke="northernbloke"I never mentioned them.
But the other view is if the players didn’t cheat you wouldn’t need a ref.'"
Looking at it from a different angle if the ref done his job correctly they would not be able to cheat. I am sure the players will be pleased to find out that they have been accused by you of cheating.
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| Quote northernbloke="northernbloke"But the other view is if the players didn’t cheat you wouldn’t need a ref.'"
I see, so when refs get things wrong it is an honest mistake, but when players do it is cheating. 
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| Never yet seen a referee break a rule during a game.
Every offside is the player trying to gain an advantage so yep breaking the rules.
Every ball strip is against the rules of the game so yes that’s cheating. Laying on in the tackle trying to slow the play the ball is cheating.
Claiming a try when you know you have dropped it is blatant cheating.
Other things are mistakes, knock on for example is an error. If the ball is deliberately knocked down, it’s cheating.
So basically if players played by the rules you don’t need a match official!
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| So what rules do the referees have to abide by during a game. Not the ones they're there to ensure are adhered to but actual rules relating to referees?
On your last point re the rules and a need for refs. I thought the reason for a referee was to arbitrate given some infringements are not so cut and dried i.e. In your every player who's offside is trying to cheat, if it's that simple why is there an accidental offside rule? Surely if they're cheating it would be a penalty not a scrum, not all cheats are they?
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| A player in the defensive line who is not back 10 mtrs has 3 choices, get back 10, don’t get involved in the play or get involved in play, eg do the right thing or make the decision to break the rules.
Accidental offside is when a player is in a position that he is allowed to be within the rules of the game, eg in front of the kicker but the ball hits him without him attempting to make a play for the ball! Two totally different situations. If he deliberately moves to pick the ball up he is doing it to gain an unfair advantage, ie cheating.
Play within the laws of the game you don’t need an official.
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| Never said they are all cheats! I simply said players will cheat to gain an advantage! Caton brown knocked dropped that ball, he knew he had, he claimed the try, that’s cheating. Simple. But in fans eyes that’s ok! If the officials miss it, they made a mistake, in fans eyes that’s not ok. So as fans we applaud the cheat but lambast the error
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| Quote northernbloke="northernbloke"Never said they are all cheats! I simply said players will cheat to gain an advantage! Caton brown knocked dropped that ball, he knew he had, he claimed the try, that’s cheating. Simple. But in fans eyes that’s ok! If the officials miss it, they made a mistake, in fans eyes that’s not ok. So as fans we applaud the cheat but lambast the error'"
find me a post where anyone applauds Caton Brown for cheating?
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| By inference! No one has said Caton brown cheated directly, no one has disagreed though, therefore happy with it. So happy to blame the officials for “ending the season” for Toulouse when actually it was Caton brown who did that by cheating! Silence on that says everything! Fans are happy to see players cheat
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