If you are more interested in watching the game (rather than the ref) the upper tier of the ST holders stand has a great view.

It certainly does and gives a totally different perspective of the game. Maybe you should join the people up there and see why they dont reckon the refs very much.

Or could stay closer to the action and see what's actually going on rather than calling things from 80 mtrs away

Interesting that the coaches go for a high position on the half way line as the best vantage point yet being in a similar position on the opposite side is not. Have you advised Danny Ward he's in the wrong place also?

But he's not there to admire the officials.

Quite funny how he can see so much more than the coaches and those in the stands on half way (even more so when he's behind the sticks and has possibly the worst view then)



Don't understand why Sky don't ask him to carry a camera for ref watch given he has such a good view or why Sky put some of their cameras anywhere other than where he is.

They did......and they offered to pay the club for this service, so St Dave of Swinton immediately said "no", as it might have made us 1% less reliant on his benevolence.

Difference with coaches sitting high up is they are looking at patterns of play looking for chinks in play.

What I find interesting is the fan sat at back of stand shouting at the ref for holding down when they cant hear the surrender or dominant call. Or same fan sat in the stand who can judge a knock on from 80 mtrs away better than the refs that are 10 mtrs away

Where do you keep getting 80 metres away from? I sit on the half way line and very little if any of the play is 80 metres away, unless your saying that all contentious decisions only happen 80 metres awa? Yet you seem to defend them from a similar viewpoint or even worse when behind the sticks.



Don't get this siege mentality you have about refs they're human and will make mistakes but you seem to be a bit of an apologist for anything a ref does wrong.

Not apologising for anyone, simply stating I prefer watching games at pitch level, certainly at London that way you get to hear the calls, you get to hear the players talking to each other.

As for where you sit, good for you puts you 50 mtrs from every try line though that's on yr side. And yep opposite corners of the pitch a good 80

That's unless yr suggesting most of the play is on halfway line on yr side.

So yep I tend to trust the blokes who are 10 mtrs away from an event than someone who at closest point to any play is at best 20 mtrs

No I'm not suggesting that I was pointing out the stupidity of you saying that people are 80 mtrs away from a disputed decision. You might want to review what you've posted and note that I've shown your error and not try and twist it. Interestingly you have a similar view but from eye level for the other half of the pitch but you seem to have a view on a decision anywhere on the pitch don't you?

No

What I suggest is the bloke on field who is paid to make the call is generally much closer and much better placed than anyone sat in the stand or touch line.

And no, I dont claim to be able to see every thing far from it. We all have a view on incidents, and yep I see stuff that I think "ouch that could have been a penalty" or "that looked like a knock on" but I am looking from different angle and it's just one view, how it looks to the bloke making the call with the whistle is actually all that matters, and he is the one closest to it generally

But it's where I prefer to watch the game at trailfinders