If McGuire is or isn't guilty as charged & there is mischief coming from the opposition, i would think the whole episode has put a cloud over our team & its performances on the field. We have a situation where the players have loyalties to McGuire as a current team member & also to past teammates at Leigh ,some they have played alongside since childhood. Hopefully,a line can be drawn under the "incident" quickly & the Wire can concentrate on playing rugby again.

I don't think any Wire fan (or official) would defend him if irrefutable proof came to light that he said what is reported. We all agree it has no place iife, society or the sport.



What doesn't quite sit well with me is that he has been disciplined on, it would appear, subjective, unconfirmed allegations from an opposition player.



If such allegations were made against me, I'd expect to see tangible evidence and if none was forthcoming I'd expect the charges to be dismissed.



So, either the RFL aren't operating with total transparency, or they are desperate to be seen to be doing the right thing even if there is no evidence.



The solution is simple - release the details of the charge, supporting evidence and minutes.

Absolutely - but what we have at the moment is a heap of negative press stories and no response from the club.

If I were Wire I’d be putting out an interim statement.

They will be, as they do every week , it just hasn't been done yet

You can't control negative press, if we put a statement out at the moment, it'll just lead to more negative press, and complaints that it hasn't said anything.

https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sp ... uspension/

https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sp ... uspension/

This. For all we know he walked into that tribunal and just admitted he'd said it and just doesn't grasp the gravity of his words. Until we see the minutes we won't know how subjective his comments were, whether he meant what he said, or whether he's just a poop house who meant it and freely admitted it (probably because he wants to go home!).

Another antipodean signing that turned out to be a disaster, and we cannot say we weren't warned in this case.

I’m eagerly awaiting the disciplinary report to see what evidence was presented.



The first occasion the insult was heard by both the ref and the opposing player who both presented as very credible witnesses.

JM’s defence was much less credible.



What evidence is there for this second offence?

Unless there is something that comes out in the report. It's Charnley's word against Maguires word.

I thought the minutes were released the morning after, not sure why its taking so long.

There will have to be more to it. Although it's only a civil process, the evidence would have to show a 'more likely than not' outcome to warrant a ban. A scenario of one word against another (both uncorroborated) would not meet that threshold.