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| Let me be clear,I am not suggesting that he caused us to lose the game,however whilst our players are being hauled over the coals for their performance,I assume this incompetent person just carries on in his smug way,potentially losing people their jobs
Apart from all the usual mistakes,that all who were there witnessed,there was one incident that I would like to highlight.
On about the hour mark on our 30 metre mark,3 Salford players tackled the Wakefield 5? As the official called held,the player was bent backwards and banged his head on the turf,I believe a complete accident. Hick did not see it as he was looking up the defence line.he then walked to the T.J. Peter Brooke,who we clearly saw report that he felt there was no foul play. Hick then called Adrian Morley out,spoke and then put the incident on report.he then gave a penalty to Wakefield,for an incident he may not have seen,and from which Wakefield scored from. I see today that we have no charge for the above incident.
I am not one who is obsessed with officials,but one really must question the abilities of a group of officials,who believe me think they are performing well.
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| "For an incident he may not have seen?" Isn't that what on report is all about?
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| I just made a comment on another topic about the referee on Sunday and our supporters reaction to his decisions. For me, Robert Hicks got 90% of his decisions spot on although the TJ made some dubious calls and did not help him out. The incident you referred to with Junior Sa’u was a legitimate fair and hard tackle, as you say the momentum of the tackle forced the Wakefield attacker to bang his head off the turf and lose consciousness for a few seconds. It was the TJ though who once the referee had stopped play to allow treatment, walked onto the pitch and informed the referee that it was a penalty to Wakefield because of a dangerous tackle.
PS Wakefield scored because 5 of our defenders couldn't stop big Ali, not because of the penalty.
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| Jinjer,the report system is for incidents that the official believes may have been foul play,in other words doubt.why would you want to report something you haven't seen?
John Gilbert,my point is poor performance of officials,not that Ali Lautiti beat us.
Being pedantic,Peter Brooke reported a previous incident not the one in question. He saw no foul play! Believe me.
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| 1st question: How many errors did the referee actually make during the entire game?
2nd question: How many player errors were made during the entire game (Reds and Wakey combined)
Are we now saying that referees are not allowed to make any errors????
Don't get me wrong, it gets on my goat when I see poor performances by the officials, however, there is no conspiracy or bias against Salford, the officials errors, predominantly affect each team equally - it's how the players respond that makes a difference
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| Quote JINJER="JINJER""For an incident he may not have seen?" Isn't that what on report is all about?'"
"On report" is now totally and utterly pointless. Every incident is reviewed anyway whether put on report or not isn't it? It's just used as an excuse for the official not to take action IMO
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| Spot on'
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| Quote lou kate="lou kate"
Being pedantic,Peter Brooke reported a previous incident not the one in question. He saw no foul play! Believe me.'"
Can you lip read?
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| "Let me be clear,I am not suggesting that he caused us to lose the game"
So why go into such a huge rant, then?
"I am not one who is obsessed with officials"
But it's not the first post you've made about poor officiating.
I agree with JGR. Ref had a decent game, liner had a few "whoops" moments, but nothing warranting the abuse they received.
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| Quote GT="GT""Let me be clear,I am not suggesting that he caused us to lose the game"
So why go into such a huge rant, then?
"I am not one who is obsessed with officials"
But it's not the first post you've made about poor officiating.
I agree with JGR. Ref had a decent game, liner had a few "whoops" moments, but nothing warranting the abuse they received.'"
This post looks to me as saying "end of thread" and I agree
***awaiting another blast from lou kate***
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| Didn't realise that there is a restriction on commenting on match officials performance.
I don't agree with you that the official had a poor game,that's a great way to argue your point.
I think your reference to " the liner " says it all. They are touch judges!!
Please don't confuse an argued point with a rant.
By the way,I don't lip read,I know the liner.
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| [size=200=#FF0000LOU KATE KNOWS AN RFL TOUCH JUDGE.[/size
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| Much better than guessing or being uninformed.
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| I think the team , missing 25 tackles , making 14 errors had more impact on the result than the ref... or a touch judge .or an in goal official , timekeeper etc
Regarding ' ex reds ' the most interesting stat was not Tim Smith , But Jon Molloy signed by Veivers on a 3 year deal in March 13 , but let go 19 days later ,
179 metres gained at 11. m pr carry , no missed tackles , no errors , sounds like he was ' prepared ' .
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| Quote lou kate="lou kate"Didn't realise that there is a restriction on commenting on match officials performance.
I don't agree with you that the official had a poor game,that's a great way to argue your point.
I think your reference to " the liner " says it all. They are touch judges!!
Please don't confuse an argued point with a rant.
By the way,I don't lip read,I know the liner.'"
Sorry, I used a slang term when referring to the touch judge, therefore I do not know what I am talking about.
There's no restriction on discussion, but equally, I'm free to point out that your rant is bizarre and that you're probably more obsessed with the officials than you say you are. And yes, it's a definite rant, rather than an argued point.
The fact that you seem to be mocking my "great way" of "arguing" my point, when I was offering an opinion of my own, says plenty (if we're playing that game.) It just seems strange how, after every defeat, people bring the standard of officiating into the equation. There's never a bleeding peep when we've won.
Well done on knowing the touch judge, by the way. Do I get any points for knowing both a Super League and a Championship touch judge? Does that add any further weight to my argument?
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| Who are they? Perhaps we have mutual friends.
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| If you watch most rugby games in general the team who has the weight of possesion tends to get more of the calls as they have the ball more.
I think it took nearly 30 minutes in the first half for us to get repeat sets, then second half we just couldn't going.
I was in front of the incident where the wakefield player hit his head, and i hope he is ok, but the touch judge must have said something for him to?
Think in the grand scheme of things he had a ok game hicks, and to be honest I think a lot of the complaints at him were more out of frustration with the team.
And agree i think some games the ref can decide a game with 50-50 calls but i feel like he could have given salford 50 pens on the wakey line and they still would't have socred,
the way wakey defended was very good.
btw I am a touch judge so do I win 
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| No north west counties carries no influence on here!
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| Bloody hell... I know this, I know that, I know him, blah de blah
Well, do you know who the hell I am?????
I'm Keyser Soze.....
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| Quote PaulCam1972="PaulCam1972"Bloody hell... I know this, I know that, I know him, blah de blah
Well, do you know who the hell I am?????
I'm Keyser Soze.....'"
I was going to say Brian.
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