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| Quote king of the shed="king of the shed"Was there something wrong with our forwards from the under 20's from last season? you know the one's that majority got released to lower league clubs or on duel registration.'"
I thought that us releasing the youngsters from last year had more to do with to wages than actually letting them go.
I personally thought Marriott was well worth a shot.
As for Molloy I doubt very much Lowe would have sanctioned the signing without the feedback from people in the game he trusts, wouldn't surprise me if Noble wasn't asked for his opinion based on his time on loan at Halifax. Said in another thread I'd like to see Sam Barlow brought in like Molloy has with an eye to the future. I have also read that there is a chance two players are being moved on makes you wonder if the new broom the Doc is brandishing is heading towards the playing staff next.
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| I wonder which 2 players that will be..
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| More big forwards I hope
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| Is 6 foot and 16 stone big?
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| It is if he hits you.
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| Essentially it comes down to momentum - perhaps a basic physics lesson is in order?
momentum = mass * velocity
so at 16stone (=101.6 kg) we need to know how fast he can run. The general consensus is that there is a limit of around 30mph as the fastest that is possible, but then then he's a forward, so let's call that 15mph or 6.7 metres/sec
So when he hits you the momentum is ~680 kgm/s
However, momentum is a vector quantity so the impact will be affected by the direction relative to what/who e hits......
Regardless I'd not want to be stood in front of him!
Welcome to Salford Jon Molloy - I hope you use physics to our benefit.
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| Quote BartonFlyer="BartonFlyer"Essentially it comes down to momentum - perhaps a basic physics lesson is in order?
momentum = mass * velocity
so at 16stone (=101.6 kg) we need to know how fast he can run. The general consensus is that there is a limit of around 30mph as the fastest that is possible, but then then he's a forward, so let's call that 15mph or 6.7 metres/sec
So when he hits you the momentum is ~680 kgm/s
However, momentum is a vector quantity so the impact will be affected by the direction relative to what/who e hits......
Regardless I'd not want to be stood in front of him!
Welcome to Salford Jon Molloy - I hope you use physics to our benefit.'" you are wasted on this site!
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| Quote BartonFlyer="BartonFlyer"Essentially it comes down to momentum - perhaps a basic physics lesson is in order?
momentum = mass * velocity
so at 16stone (=101.6 kg) we need to know how fast he can run. The general consensus is that there is a limit of around 30mph as the fastest that is possible, but then then he's a forward, so let's call that 15mph or 6.7 metres/sec
So when he hits you the momentum is ~680 kgm/s
However, momentum is a vector quantity so the impact will be affected by the direction relative to what/who e hits......
Regardless I'd not want to be stood in front of him!
Welcome to Salford Jon Molloy - I hope you use physics to our benefit.'"
One thing; Usain Bolt has managed to run at 27.45mph and something tells me that the newby isn't as quick as Bolt. And Of course, the force generated by body composition must also be accounted for. How does this effect the physics.
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| Clearly that was 2 things. Well spotted.
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| I'll take that as a 'no',then
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| Quote Bonita Red="Bonita Red"I'll take that as a 'no',then'"
mmm - stand in front of a 680kg weight and let it hit you at a metre/second!!
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| Molloy was at Wigan when Vievers coached there. He did well in our reserves but went to Huddersfield along with Sarsfield. It did not work out for either which may be a reflection on Huddersfield who regularly failed to field reserve teams for fixtures. For the physics guru, the ability to 'ride' and 'evade' tackles alongside balance are often more important than pure physics. A Vievers signing IMO but was a decent prospect.
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| Jonny Molloy is a very decent player, had a run of games at Huddersfield under Nathan Brown and did very well, certainly looked like he was going to become established. He then suffered a bad knee injury which he subsequently re-injured. Due to injuries he never saw the first team again.
His failure to "make it" would not be a reflection on Huddersfield but bad luck with injuries. I understand that when released in November he already had a deal agreed with you, but then you imploded prior to the good Doctor's rescue.
You will no doubt have thoroughly tested his knee to give a three year contract.
Not the signing to transform your team but if fit a very good signing as a squad man with high potential upside.
Finally, he is not a big forward, unless he has seriously bulked up I doubt he is 16 stone, more of a Lee Gilmore or Stephen Wild build and like both of them a great enthusiasm for tackling.
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| Quote Red Preacher="Red Preacher"And Of course, the force generated by body composition must also be accounted for. How does this effect the physics.'"
Quite. The more elastic the collision, the more energy used in less productive ways, for our 'go forward' at least. This is commonly known as the 'Neil Baynes' effect.
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| Quote BartonFlyer="BartonFlyer"mmm - stand in front of a 680kg weight and let it hit you at a metre/second!!'"
What I want to know is if Craig Makin falls down in the woods, does he make a sound?
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| Quote Chico="Chico"What I want to know is if Craig Makin falls down in the woods, does he make a sound?'"
Quote Chico="GiantDee"You will no doubt have thoroughly tested his knee to give a three year contract. .'"
Previous management probably made him walk round the room once so he passed his medical with flying colours
Left the way he came....in his wheelchair
Seriously tho lets hope he can add some steel to our pack
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| Quote GiantDee="GiantDee"Jonny Molloy is a very decent player, had a run of games at Huddersfield under Nathan Brown and did very well, certainly looked like he was going to become established. He then suffered a bad knee injury which he subsequently re-injured. Due to injuries he never saw the first team again.
He already had a deal agreed with you, but then you imploded prior to the good Doctor's rescue.
=#BF0000[iYou will no doubt have thoroughly tested his knee to give a three year contract[/i.
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If his deal was agreed pre takeover
'au contraire mon frere' this is Salford, we have a 'knack' ered for picking up Jack Rodwells
Bailey - Phil
Talau - Willie
Edmondson - Mark
Jonkers -Tim
Jowitt - Warren
Mind you we picked up David Hodgson when he was supposedly pensioned off by wigan as a certifiable wreck ..
Jon Molloy , a relation to Steve Molloy ?
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| Quote The optimist="The optimist"icon_lol.gif
Previous management probably made him walk round the room once so he passed his medical with flying colours
Left the way he came....in his wheelchair

Seriously tho lets hope he can add some steel to our pack'"
We need a few 'dirty buggers' (Technical term) like Hock to put some fear into the opposition. Opponents running the ball in and not knowing if there head will still be attached for much longer. Sod the penalties this evens itself out with players dropping the ball because they are looking for the headhunters in the defensive line
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| Quote Fylde_Warrior="Fylde_Warrior"A Vievers signing IMO but was a decent prospect.'"
So a player he wanted to sign after he was signed by former NRL coach Brown,now at St Helens.
Is it the case that Foran and Mauro were also identified last year,by Veivers,as the targets,but were unable to be completed signings until Wilkinson sorted out the money,which didn't materialise because the bank account was frozen ?
Is this 'old money' being used now or is it Dr Koukash money ?
Has the Director of rugby,Graham Lowe,approved these signings ?
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| It's paid for out of the Myler money!
Of course there's no old money.
Anything agreed pre takeover would still need to be ratified by Lowe and the Doctor.
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| A thread with comedy, rugby league, philosophy and a bit of science. PERFECT!
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| Did ok for us in the few games he did play, was just breaking into the 1st team then got injured and by the time he was fit we had O'Donnell, Fa'aologo, Patrick, Gilmour, Lawrence, Ferguson all in front of him so was never going to break back in front of them.
Hope he turns out ok for you .
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| Quote Bonita Red="Bonita Red"Of course there's no old money.
Anything agreed pre takeover would still need to be ratified by Lowe and the Doctor.'"
Sorry.I meant an old agreement with the old administration.
If the young man has hung on,since November time,to sign for the club during the uncertainty it is to his credit and I wish him all the very best of luck in his future career.
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| Molloy's agent has a job within the club apparently...there's your answer as to why you've signed him
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| Quote middleman="middleman"If his deal was agreed pre takeover
'au contraire mon frere' this is Salford, we have a 'knack' ered for picking up Jack Rodwells
Bailey - Phil
Talau - Willie
Edmondson - Mark
Jonkers -Tim
Jowitt - Warren
Mind you we picked up David Hodgson when he was supposedly pensioned off by wigan as a certifiable wreck ..
Jon Molloy , a relation to Steve Molloy ?'"
No relation as far as I know
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