its just sour grapes from some of the neg mis sods in england . you could use origin . too pump up more fans . get war of the roses back . play 2 games at the same venue . like wembley . when the fans see the brutal warfare like SOO they will go crazy for it . all the players will want too play at wembley on this day . pump them up aswell . if its done right it could turn out too be 1 of the greatest rugby league days of the year .if we could get 2 games played at wembley . same day . the fans would go crazy





. tooheys blues cockroaches vs xxxx maroon canetoads

cmon you blues

Do you have specialist marketing training or did you just come up with that, yourself???

yes its a great idea of mine . it would be one of the best league days of the year . bring it on baby

War of the Roses would not be big as the players themselves and the clubs don't seem interested.

Yeah I remember going to Wigan for one in 2002 and the turn out then made me realise that it's a crap idea. Also no one would go down to London in this current economic climate to watch state of origin.



You might get a few exiled Aussies living in London who'd go but the turn out from English fans would be minimal. You'd be looking at 5000 people in a 90000 capacity ground.

is SOO Broncos and Manly and teams like that?

No. Queensland and New South Wales

There was me thinking the beer in Aus is lower strength than ours. Obviously not.

you must watch some videos of state of origin . nsw blues cockroaches vs queensland maroons canetoads. then you would relise how great this game can be . its warfare

I must of missed the tanks, warplanes and AK47's

so whats the league with nz warriors and the broncos etc?

That's the NRL

Ah okay.



I just think the Challenge Cup should be changed to the world club cup.

Bizarre thread

when the world club championship . state of origin started it was bizarre aswell

origin is rep game between the 2 states. nsw vs queensland. both teams have all the best players picked from the nrl clubs

did u see the origin game 1 last week . game 2 on next week

Not so much bizarre as a clash of cultures: Aussies can`t understand why we don`t go a bundle on regional matches and we can`t get a grip on why they don`t play knock out cup competitions. Vive la difference, I say. By all means suck it and see but looking at the crowd figures for our previous regional championship games we`d be lucky to get a sponsor never mind a crowd.



Have the Aussies ever had a KO cup comp? If they did, did it ever take off or was it a failure from the start?

no .we had a midweek wenesday night knock out.amco cup . panasonic cup. tooheys cup .it was the richest RL cup in its day . ran for over 20 years. dragons won it 1 year

have a look for it on the video site . we use to have a preseason knockout aswell.

Do they really not have a knock out cup?

I never knew that?



Why not?

nrl use to have it . not anymore. now we only play a few trial matches.before nrl season

My guess is that it`s just they way you`re brought up. In the UK we`re constantly told tales of derring do about the cup and about the supposed `magic` of Wembley, how important cup finals are, how great is is when you win, etc etc we take it in with our mother`s milk. We`re so indoctrinated with it that it makes us think the old Wembley stadium was a wonderful ground, when it was actually a bit of a dump in the middle of an industrial estate.



Like many things which are cultural it probably isn`t quite so wonderful when viewed from the outside, hence the Aussies can`t understand what all the fuss is about. For what it`s worth SOE probably falls into the same category, it`s just, on that one, we`re the ones looking from afar.

Many Aussies talk about the challenge cup and remember watching it as a boy etc etc



Their lack of a cup comp is probably more due to the extra games it would involve for players and perhaps devalue the league comp a little

Australians are weird.

Aussie players always say that don`t they. Maybe they do, I ` don`t know to be honest, maybe they just say what they think we want to hear sometimes. I don`t know about Aussie fans saying it though.



Funny thing is I know lots of people here who `always` watch the SOE on Telly but we still never get big crowds for our attempts. It`s something that`s hard to explain, I guess.