How to effectively use such a talent as Menzies? Looked lost today with no given role.

As Ben had a reasonable game compared to others, it's a shame you didn't have the decency to say as much to him. If you knew Ben,he is a very quiet bloke but would have had a chat if you had spoken to him.

Menzies looks like what he is ie a class player in his mid 30's. Someone ideally suited to playing in short spells, doing the creative, impact stuff and leaving others to do the donkey work.

Indeed. Menzies has probably (hopefully) not yet found his niche in the side because we don't seem to be using him correctly.



Getting him to take the first drive from a tap is madness.

That's exactly my point, we have got him yet we're largely wasting him.



In answer to the original question as to whether he "fancies it", I don't think, in his case, this even merits a reply.

When he signed there was mention that he has played a bit at 6. The Deacon/Jefferies combination is not working consistently, is it time to try either Deacon/Menzies or Jefferies/Menzies? Now that Lynch & Langley are back there is plenty of cover in the forwards again

That sounds like crap coaching & crap captaincy.

We could move Menzies to play at stand off if the scrum half was a good organiser. However Deacon is no Matt Orford.



I'm not sure what Deacon's problem is at the moment. He had a mare yesterday, his passes were inaccurate and his kicks largely ineffectual until he started putting up some bombs. Take him away though and I think we'd be even worse. Anyone recall the moment where Deacon was tackled on the 5th and the ball ended up with Lynch to kick? Where was the replacement kicker on that play? Surely that's where Jeffries, Newton or Sykes should slot in?

That was just after halftime - we thought that was a cunning plan which had come out of the team talk. It confused a lot of the hull players actually - nearly worked!

As a Hull fan i cant really comment but, how about Menzies and Jeffries at 6 and 7, and Deacon interchanging at hooker. People have said his kicking game is not as good as previous years, is that down to increased pressure from defence?? If so, get him in at hooker and kick from acting half



Just an option for discussion

I think he'd get even less time kicking from DH than he does standing back from the defence. He's our no 1 kick option so the markers would be at him immediately. At least if he's in the line he's got more time before the defence gets to him.



I'd say we could do with another kicker to mix things up. If Sykes is at fullback then he's an option.

Bombs? Thorman put up "bombs". Deacon (who must, I'd bet a whole lot of money, be able to kick a ball harder than Thorman, put up simpering damp squibs most of the time. If you're going to do a bomb, why not put your back into it and give the ball some decent height, so your players actually have a chance? It's not as if it is something he [ican't [/ido, is it, having managed it these past numerous seasons? I'm baffled.





Yes it is, but then I doubt anyone had remotely expected Deacon on that play to dip a shoulder and go far a half gap, being instantly tackled. Ending up with Lynch putting up the 'bomb' was excruciatingly embarrassing, to say the least. Agree entirely that when it happened [isomebody[/i should have been quick enough of brain and foot to slot in as a replacement kicker. They didn't.