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| As a Hull FC fan watching the match on tele...just in case anyone is concerned?!  I was pretty shocked by that Bradford performance, but maybe the injuries are the root cause?? Even though you aint won any games, surely you must have had a better kicking game than that this season? Reckon you will give us a good game next week, cos your team will want to repay their fans!
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| Quote af="af"Ryan's overstated his point, but he does have one.'"
No he hasn't. He is simply trotting out the same rubbish as a few on here have made recently.
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| Hey Eddie, you forgot to quote this bit of my post.
Quote If people had stuck with the Bulls rather than melting away since 2003, we'd be in a much stronger position.'"
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| Quote af="af"Hey Eddie, you forgot to quote this bit of my post.'"
No I didn't.
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| Quote mystic eddie="mystic eddie"No he hasn't. He is simply trotting out the same rubbish as a few on here have made recently.'"
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Criticise the specific content of the posts, not the posters please - af
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| Quote mystic eddie="mystic eddie"No I didn't.'"
Because you can find no fault with it, right?
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| Quote mystic eddie="mystic eddie"No he hasn't. He is simply trotting out the same rubbish as a few on here have made recently.'"
So back to type then - his opinion has no value because it does not accord with yours? You could not wait to get on here to show you were right, could you? [size=59Even if after last night your argument has gathered considerably more weight... [/size
IMO some of Ryan's comments were unfair and ill-considered - as I'm sure in the cold light of day he will have realised. I'm sure he'll be considering clarifying his comments to make it more clear who and what he was getting at, as I'm sure he intended no slight to folks like Bennett.
But they were clearly made out of frustration and passion, and he has as much right to make his point as you have.
After last night, I doubt many on here - myself included - will feel entirely rational in what they say for some time - cos every true fan will feel absolutely gutted. So I suggest allowances are made all-round? I don't think it will reflect well on those who are shouting "I told you so" at every opportunity, any more than it will reflect well on anyone who seeks to blindly defend the indefensible.
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| Quote af="af"Because you can find no fault with it, right?'"
I agree 100% with your point. I just did not think it had anything to do with one made by Ryan at the start of the thread.
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| I think it does, even if he did not make it explicit. It is hypocritical of people not making their best effort to support the club to criticise players for doing similar. Sure plenty of people have good reason not to go to Wigan on a Friday night. But we all know there is a signficant percentage that just can't be ar5ed, are not interested in getting behind the club during the lean times yet would have showed up if we were as strong as we were a few years ago.
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| Quote af="af"We used to fill the away end at the JJB. Must be a lot of sick mums and squaddies about.'"
What about those of us who have been made redundant and can`t spare the cash to go and whatch a very poor team give yet another very poor effort. If i make the effort & the sacrifice of much needed money to go to casvagas on the 29th, do you think I`l see any improvement?, not under this coach.
Sorry Macca, time to go.
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| Quote af="af"I think it does, even if he did not make it explicit. It is hypocritical of people not making their best effort to support the club to criticise players for doing similar. Sure plenty of people have good reason not to go to Wigan on a Friday night. But we all know there is a signficant percentage that just can't be ar5ed, are not interested in getting behind the club during the lean times yet would have showed up if we were as strong as we were a few years ago.'"
Andrew, in fairness we are comparing people who play the game for a living - who get paid for doing it and so would be expected to give their best - with people who pay to watch the game, so I'm not sure the comparison and label is entirely fair?
What IS entirely fair and reasonable IMO is challenging people who see the problem - and the solution - as one-dimensional. In fact (as you observe), the problem has been building up for several years, well pre-dating Macca as Head Coach, is largely financial regardless of what some denialists might say, and the falling support has had a lot to do with that. And the resolution is likely to take years too. Trouble is, its a classic Catch-22 situation.
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