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| Quote Asim="Asim"I don't care if Leeds gets a tram network, I just object with money being taken from Bradford, Calderdale, Kirklees and Wakefield to pay for it - [url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/local/localbrad/9221663.Councils_plotting_to_set_up___1bn_regional_fund_for_transport/as is the fairly transparent plan[/url (light rail being the first thing mentioned in that article, and on the internal LCC intranet article I saw). Maybe I'm being paranoid, but plenty of evidence suggests I'm not.
Bradford might have already reached the point of no return but, if it hasn't, I wish the powers that be would open their eyes and realise that their dream of one power in a "city region" magically benefiting the rest of the "region" isn't having much of an effect.'"
This is the old 'trickle down effect' which has been pretty well debunked by history. Money given to the 'Leeds city region' will stay in Leeds; check out the latest 'development area' scam.
There was talk of Leeds extending the tramway into Bradford IIRC, which is all we need, something which makes it even easier to go and spend our cash in Leeds. The council are just dolts at times, they get duped by everything. |
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| Quote Bulliac="Bulliac"This is the old 'trickle down effect' which has been pretty well debunked by history. Money given to the 'Leeds city region' will stay in Leeds; check out the latest 'development area' scam.
There was talk of Leeds extending the tramway into Bradford IIRC, which is all we need, something which makes it even easier to go and spend our cash in Leeds. The council are just dolts at times, they get duped by everything.'"
It wouldn't surprise me, we'll become to Leeds what Oldham is to Manchester. They've lost their branch line rail stations to be replaced by a Metrolink extension which will not only lengthens the journey into Manchester as it is, but also isolates them from the main rail network and anywhere else. |
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| Quote Bulliac="Bulliac" I can't imagine where their aping of Manchester will end though; Manc has trams so Leeds wants trams, Manc has an arena, so Leeds wants an arena, anything else they feel 'deprived' of, I wonder?'"
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| Quote Asim="Asim"I don't care if Leeds gets a tram network, I just object with money being taken from Bradford, Calderdale, Kirklees and Wakefield to pay for it - [url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/local/localbrad/9221663.Councils_plotting_to_set_up___1bn_regional_fund_for_transport/as is the fairly transparent plan[/url (light rail being the first thing mentioned in that article, and on the internal LCC intranet article I saw). Maybe I'm being paranoid, but plenty of evidence suggests I'm not.
Bradford might have already reached the point of no return but, if it hasn't, I wish the powers that be would open their eyes and realise that their dream of one power in a "city region" magically benefiting the rest of the "region" isn't having much of an effect.'"
I'm struggling to see anywhere in the article that even mentions Leeds. Transport has to be thought of strategically. Unless you are a government & think breaking up the rail network will benefit the country, obviously. Although if you were responsible for handing out money which had to show a positive outcome you would not be giving it to Bradford. |
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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"Leeds is Europe's largest city without a tram type network.'"
I take it that was meant to be one of your silly flippant remarks? If not, it is a ridiculous statement. |
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| Quote billypop="billypop" it is a ridiculous statement.'"
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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"Really? Why?'"
Clearly because Carlisle is the largest city in the UK, and that city has no trams.
Look it up. 
[uen.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Carlisle[/u
Trust me, there are nee trams theer like, eh?
Forgive me for teasing, and I will forgive your regurgitation of the marketing spiel from the "Leeds must have a tram because Leeds must have a tram" bunch. |
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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"I'm struggling to see anywhere in the article that even mentions Leeds. Transport has to be thought of strategically. Unless you are a government & think breaking up the rail network will benefit the country, obviously. Although if you were responsible for handing out money which had to show a positive outcome you would not be giving it to Bradford.'"
As Leeds, sadly, is yet to secede from the rest of us I'm pretty sure they are still one of the five West Yorkshire authorities mentioned at the start of the story, your last sentence may well be right - but unless there is some investment in Bradford the the vicious downward circle will continue. I'm not one of those who blames Leeds for all Bradford's ills (plenty are self inflicted) but the blue-eyed boy status of Leeds with successive governments, and their agencies, certainly isn't helping. |
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| Quote El Diablo="El Diablo"There's no proof that's Saints' new ground. It might say "Sainsburys" when it's finished.'"
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shaping up very nicely indeed.
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| Quote FearTheVee="FearTheVee"PHEW!!!
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They even left space for the opposing team's name to go after the versus |
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Looks a fantastic venue.. something we can only dream about right now.
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