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| Quote christopher="christopher"The one thing Smith could fix from last year was the pack, and clearing out he’s done that which as you say has highlighted the things he needs to fix from this year.
I want us to be in the top positions this year but having said that Smiths brief was always a long term one.
Fans clamoured for youth to be given a go, well fine i agree but that strategy is not a quick fix'"
Fixing the pack was absolutely the priority.
And he has done that.
On paper this pack should be a match for any in the league.
The problem is that in reality, they are not.
The debate is whether that is down to the quality of the players or the way they are being coached to play.
I really feel that the lack of line speed and intensity and the passive defence is letting the opposition pack dominate ours.
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| Leigh fan here, interesting reading your thoughts on Rohan Smith, a few years ago he was Head Coach at Bradford in the Championship and he had by far the best squad in the league (When they had money still) he brought some class players to the Bulls but he couldn’t get them to win with his style of play.
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| Quote Binosh="Binosh"Leigh fan here, interesting reading your thoughts on Rohan Smith, a few years ago he was Head Coach at Bradford in the Championship and he had by far the best squad in the league (When they had money still) he brought some class players to the Bulls but he couldn’t get them to win with his style of play.'"
Bradford were in a right state when Smith was coach, didn’t they go bust again which is why he left early?
Anyway, Smith has shown he can get Leeds to play well with his style, we were in a GF 12 games ago.
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| that was then, this is now.
it's a shambles, and a lot is down to him
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| Ultimately it all comes down to the coach. If players can’t play the game plan, he needs to change it. If players consistently make mistakes he needs to drop them.
We’re not seeing and leadership from him, and that’s a big part of any management role.
That’s my biggest issue, not the results, it’s the acceptance, ongoing, of poor performance and lack of leadership.
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| Quote tad rhino="tad rhino"that was then, this is now.
it's a shambles, and a lot is down to him'"
As I say fans always think in the short term, a lot can happen in a season.
We’re clearly not playing good enough at the moment, that can change.
Ive said my bit, pointless going over and over it so ill leave it now for this week 
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| Start like we have again next week against a motivated wigan side and it could get nasty and there'll be much more gnashing on here.
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| Yep I found myself thinking on Thursday ‘Great, just in time for us to catch a Wigan backlash.’
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| Quote tad rhino="tad rhino"that was then, this is now.
it's a shambles, and a lot is down to him'"
Yup.
Remember Hull? After the first 2 games they went on a massive losing run. For many weeks only Wakefield were below them.
They are now 2 points behind us.
If you drop a frog in boiling water it jumps straight out. Put it in cold water and heat it up, it slowly boils to death.
After the end of last season, if you’d dropped us straight into this scenario we’d immediately realise we were in hot water, that Smith isn’t working.
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| Quote FlexWheeler="FlexWheeler"Yup.
Remember Hull? After the first 2 games they went on a massive losing run. For many weeks only Wakefield were below them.
They are now 2 points behind us.
If you drop a frog in boiling water it jumps straight out. Put it in cold water and heat it up, it slowly boils to death.
After the end of last season, if you’d dropped us straight into this scenario we’d immediately realise we were in hot water, that Smith isn’t working.'"
Would you say Tony Smith is ‘working’ at hull or Paul Wellens at Saints?
You e just described a Hull side that looked clueless and far worse than us whi now seem to have turned that around, were 4 points of 4th place with over half the season to go, a lot can happen in that time.
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| Christopher it's not where we are or points were on its the glaring ineptitude of the performances. Ie we could have lost by the same margin last night but with positive signs.
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| Quote Seth="Seth"Christopher it's not where we are or points were on its the glaring ineptitude of the performances. Ie we could have lost by the same margin last night but with positive signs.'"
That’s my point about Hull, who you yourself mentioned, things can change within a season.
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