Sure. Take Sangare out and it drops to 16.5 stone. But do notice I said front row and not prop.







Just making a point that our 15 and 16 stone forwards might struggle against those that are well over 19 stone. We have one player anywhere near that weight.



I'm not really sure why my opinion is being scrutinised so much. Stats show we have a lightweight pack compared to others, Smith has recruited two heavier props for a reason, and I have a fetish for heavy forwards. I'm not criticising Smith, or by extension the club, for going for a more mobile pack and I've even stated that I'm not under the pretense that I know more than Rohan. It's just my musings and my opinion. YMMV, and that's what makes life interesting.

So you now want 2 17+ Stone hookers? (what you do in your personal life...). Think you need to go back to the drawing board on your RL education (and your maths).



It's being scrutinised as you put it because it's simply nonsense. Tetevano is the lightest at 16.5 and Holroyd is over 17 so I'm not sure how you're getting an average of 16.5 (unless youre including the wingers of course).



You don't get many 18 St 2nd rows (ah for another Lauititi).

Of cause it would.This season we have addressed the front row.There is only Tet who would say is lightweight but he does make up for that with work rate.

I'm not sure where the idea came from that we're lightweight now? Last year we had Prior (16 stone) and Mustapha (15 stone) in our rotation and didn't have Holroyd available. This year five of our six props are over 17 stone and Tetevano is just under. If we get outgunned upfront its not pure size that's the issue.



I don't think we should pick both Bentley and Donaldson in the 17, as that does make us undersized. I don't see that happening a lot this year as Donaldson will fall back in the pecking order when everyone's fit.

Austin looked like he was struggling with a leg injury late on in the Wakey game. Pretty sure they brought him off. Might be in doubt for Thursday.

We were definitely lightweight last year with Thompson, Donaldson and Muizz playing in the front row.

But the addition of Sangare and Lisone, as well as the return of Holroyd and the emergence of Walters has addressed that.

If we can get Sangare and Lisone match fit, and Holroyd can stay fit, we have a front row rotation of 6 that will match most other teams.

Oledski and Tetevano will also benefit from some rotation.

I’d be tempted to use the money saved and quota space freed up from Tetevano on a 1 or 6/7. We will still have Oledzki, Holroyd, Sangar, Lisone and Walters to take us forwards, so the money would be better spent elsewhere and buy a big lump

From the Championship and develop them or one of the kids is 6th prop.



We need more pace at the back and in the halves, not more front row size.

The problem with not replacing Tetevano though is that I'm not sure who other than Mik is a real starting prop. Maybe Walters or Holroyd in time

I’d continue starting Holroyd, he can do the tough stuff, can play decent minutes and is already getting better with more game time and responsibility.



Oledzki and Holroyd starting, one off after 20 and one of Sangare / Lisone / Walters on, then another switch 10 mins later as the opposition pack starts to tire.

Is this the start of the of the Tet must stay campaign? Seriously though, I know what you are saying. Now he's surrounded by somd some big lads he's cracking on with what he does best and looks a far better player for it.

Credit where its due, Tet has improved week on week and is putting in decent shifts. Unfortunately that is all they are, decent shifts. Not enough for a marquee spot but certainly not the liability he has been at some points last season

Playing Castleford at the right time. It appears there is trouble in the camp with Radford leaving and the team in free fall at the moment.