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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"Looks like the vote of confidence may be coming next week.
Finally, enough Tory MP's have decided to put on their "big boy" pants.
About bloody time !'"
Well according to Nadine he has the confidence of the country well sorry I have absolutely no confidence at all in his tenure. I guess she knows that no de Pfeffel then no Nadine because let’s face facts she is like many in the current cabinet unemployable and would be back on the benches.
It looks like operation save big dog failed its first obstacle, avoiding an ego busting vote of confidence.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"Well according to Nadine he has the confidence of the country well sorry I have absolutely no confidence at all in his tenure. I guess she knows that no de Pfeffel then no Nadine because let’s face facts she is like many in the current cabinet unemployable and would be back on the benches.
It looks like operation save big dog failed its first obstacle, avoiding an ego busting vote of confidence.'"
It was interesting listening to the possible scenarios, which could happen when a leadership contest is triggered.
Apparently, Boris is assured of 170 votes, which will make him "no 1 contender" but, it the number of votes against that will dictate whether he can cling on to power.
Usually, the standing PM will get a tap on the shoulder from the men in grey suits but, I cant see Johnson going quietly and he is likely to wriggle and scream and do everything possible to hang on to his position as leader..
There is the up coming by election in Wakefield and also one in Tiverton.
Labour has to take Wakefield back or they too are screwed but, Tiverton is currently Tory and they had a 22,000 majority at the last election but, the Lib Dems are fancying their chances here.
Poor Boris, I actually feel sorry for him now 
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| It would appear that de Pfeffel actually thought about resigning, i bet that caused him to wake up in a cold sweat. He then realised that he was far too important to the country to resign because he still had a bucket list of institutions and laws to destroy.
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| Quote Mild Rover="Mild Rover"
Why do you regard Starmer as being sleazy? Why do you believe he is unelectable?
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I wonder if, on the issue of electability, it is that, from a Red Wall perspective, being lied to and despised is bad but that being patronised, pitied and taken for granted is worse?
Beyond just not being Boris Johnson, Labour does to be clearer about what it is offering and to whom, if it is to have a shot a forming a government (most likely in coalition) after the next election.
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| Quote Mild Rover="Mild Rover"I wonder if, on the issue of electability, it is that, from a Red Wall perspective, being lied to and despised is bad but that being patronised, pitied and taken for granted is worse?
Beyond just not being Boris Johnson, Labour does to be clearer about what it is offering and to whom, if it is to have a shot a forming a government (most likely in coalition) after the next election.'"
The way he is performing just not being de Pfeffel looks like a vote winner.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"The way he is performing just not being de Pfeffel looks like a vote winner.'"
The danger is the Tories get rid of Johnson and then get to paint the new leader somehow as a fresh start. Unless it's a complete outsider they will of course all have the blood of the last 12 disastrous years on their hands - but that's not how people's minds work. Labour need to be clearer and more authentic than they have been so far.
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| Quote The Ghost of '99="The Ghost of '99"The danger is the Tories get rid of Johnson and then get to paint the new leader somehow as a fresh start. Unless it's a complete outsider they will of course all have the blood of the last 12 disastrous years on their hands - but that's not how people's minds work. Labour need to be clearer and more authentic than they have been so far.'"
They'll probably elect Jacob Rees-Mogg as leader and call him the anti-establishment choice.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"The way he is performing just not being de Pfeffel looks like a vote winner.'"
You’d assume so. But if the Tories get shut, it becomes much less relevant… though the longer they wait, the more it’ll look like a cynical electoral calculation than being about standards in public life.
There’s ~644k 2019 Brexit Party voters floating about too.
You look at the key roles in the Shadow cabinet (leader, chancellor, home and foreign secretaries), both now and under Corbyn at the last election, and there’s not a lot of representation from outside London and the South East. McDonnell grew up Liverpool but was deep in London politics from the early 80s. Cooper has a Yorkshire seat but grew up in Hampshire. Nandy did have a spell shadowing Foreign in between, as well. But the shift has been from more working class London-types to more Oxford-educated London-types. While London largely sees itself as aspirational and the engine of the UK economy, much of the rest of the country sees it as divorced from them and parasitical.
I’ve seen it noted that the Labour mayors of Manchester (Burnham) and West Yorkshire (Brabin) weren’t invited to speak at the last party conference, whereas the mayor of London (Khan) was. I’m not saying he shouldn’t have been, but when you’ve lost so much of your northern heartlands, you’d think there’d be more effort to reconnect. Like they did in Scotland… oh.
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| The dreaded vote of confidence is set for today, after more than 54 Tory MP's submitted their letters..
The word on the streets is that he wont go quietly so, we may have a "lame duck" PM until the next election.
#prayfotboris
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| Quote The Ghost of '99="The Ghost of '99"Labour need to be clearer and more authentic than they have been so far.'"
Is that a criticism
What about your merry lot, have you given up on them? to be honest they aren't a reliable bunch 
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| Quote chissitt="chissitt"Is that a criticism
What about your merry lot, have you given up on them? to be honest they aren't a reliable bunch
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I think gaining the most seats at the most recent set of elections and somehow being in with a chance of winning another of the safest Tory parliamentary seats in the country at Tiverton & Honiton in a couple of weeks indicate the Lib Dems are ticking along just fine thanks. I'd be more concerned with your lot if I were you.
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Yes I get your point about my lot it is a bit worrying, it was comforting though that we beat a good Hull side albeit through an overtime drop goal, hopefully we can keep up the good work against Wire next week, Oh and fwiw the only seats I'll be bothered about are the ones with bums on them next Sunday if that helps 
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