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| To the businesses affected by the restrictions what the EU have offered will be more than acceptable especially when NI voted to stay in the EU. I doubt many even care about the ECJ and that is the corner Boris and Frost have painted themselves into. They have already stated that the new EU offer is not acceptable so they now face being shown to be the ones who caused the protocol to collapse not the EU. This will also enable the EU to impose whatever sanctions on us because it was not them who were being unreasonable.
I look forward to seeing how Boris & Co. get onto of this mess of their own making because they believed they could outflank the EU. The Daily Mail was even lauding the offer from the EU as a success for the U.K. and Frost negotiation skills, I wonder what they think now.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"To the businesses affected by the restrictions what the EU have offered will be more than acceptable especially when NI voted to stay in the EU. I doubt many even care about the ECJ and that is the corner Boris and Frost have painted themselves into. They have already stated that the new EU offer is not acceptable so they now face being shown to be the ones who caused the protocol to collapse not the EU. This will also enable the EU to impose whatever sanctions on us because it was not them who were being unreasonable.
I look forward to seeing how Boris & Co. get onto of this mess of their own making because they believed they could outflank the EU. The Daily Mail was even lauding the offer from the EU as a success for the U.K. and Frost negotiation skills, I wonder what they think now.'"
Before coming up with slogans and red busses (or both), Bojo & Co should really have worked out just how any type of Brexit could work but, they went for "let's get something signed and we can worry about the detail later" and surprise, surprise, we're in a bit of a mess (understatement).
I suppose the Brexit chickens would eventually come home to roost.
At least we're all much better off than we were 
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| Quote Zoo Zoo Boom="Zoo Zoo Boom"
The EU have given a lot the only thing left is the jurisdiction of the EC?'"
Do you mean the ECJ? If so that's an impossibility. The court is the ultimate legal regulator/arbitor of disputes in the Single Market. If Northern Ireland is to remain in the Single Market it has to follow those rules.
The court protects the integrity of the market and the UK has historically done quite well out of its decisions. Johnson and Frost know what they are requesting is an impossibility and are trying to create yet another EU bogeyman. People in NI certainly don't care so if they were interested in outcomes rather than politics they wouldn't be playing this game.
If it's all about face saving for the UK government I wonder if some sort of solution could be to install Northern Ireland into EFTA which has its own court. Of course that simply follows ECJ rulings and case law so it would be utterly the same but it would probably give the UK government a fig leaf. I don't know if there are other implications, political, legal or economic, by NI following this course though, or if it's compatible with the special NI customs status. Or if the EFTA members would welcome NI with all its complications and baggage. But it might be an option. As ever I'm simply not sure the UK are negotiating in good faith as they appear to want conflict rather than solutions.
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| Quote The Ghost of '99="The Ghost of '99"Do you mean the ECJ? If so that's an impossibility. The court is the ultimate legal regulator/arbitor of disputes in the Single Market. If Northern Ireland is to remain in the Single Market it has to follow those rules.
The court protects the integrity of the market and the UK has historically done quite well out of its decisions. Johnson and Frost know what they are requesting is an impossibility and are trying to create yet another EU bogeyman. People in NI certainly don't care so if they were interested in outcomes rather than politics they wouldn't be playing this game.
If it's all about face saving for the UK government I wonder if some sort of solution could be to install Northern Ireland into EFTA which has its own court. Of course that simply follows ECJ rulings and case law so it would be utterly the same but it would probably give the UK government a fig leaf. I don't know if there are other implications, political, legal or economic, by NI following this course though, or if it's compatible with the special NI customs status. Or if the EFTA members would welcome NI with all its complications and baggage. But it might be an option. As ever I'm simply not sure the UK are negotiating in good faith as they appear to want conflict rather than solutions.'"
I agree - if we all play by the rules then the court shouldn't be necessary. Johnson has done this country a disservice by his appalling behaviour. How could anyone negotiate in good faith with us? We are not the size of China who are so big they can do as they please.
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| I'm surprised a think tank hasn't been assembled on here, all our problems could be solved almost immediately., Boris and all those pesky little rascals they call a government should be locked in the tower of London till they learn some sense.
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| Quote chissitt="chissitt"I'm surprised a think tank hasn't been assembled on here, all our problems could be solved almost immediately., Boris and all those pesky little rascals they call a government should be locked in the tower of London till they learn some sense.'"
I know it doesn't appeal to you but the world is a complicated place and just stamping your feet and demanding change doesn't often work. It appears to be the Johnsonian approach as well, which is probably why he's proving so ineffectual as Prime Minister.
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| Quote chissitt="chissitt"I'm surprised a think tank hasn't been assembled on here, all our problems could be solved almost immediately., Boris and all those pesky little rascals they call a government should be locked in the tower of London till they learn some sense.'"
We can live in hope 
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| Quote chissitt="chissitt"I'm surprised a think tank hasn't been assembled on here, all our problems could be solved almost immediately., Boris and all those pesky little rascals they call a government should be locked in the tower of London till they learn some sense.'"
I think most of our contributors would do better in a think tank than Johnson and the rascals do in government… or would do on the Sin Bin, tbh.
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| Quote chissitt="chissitt"I'm surprised a think tank hasn't been assembled on here, all our problems could be solved almost immediately., Boris and all those pesky little rascals they call a government should be locked in the tower of London till they learn some sense.'"
And the big difference is that Johnson and his clown government are paid to get things right.
There is one absolute certainty, I'm significantly better at my day job than than Bojo & Co and I dont tell lies to my customers or try to mislead them on a daily basis.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"And the big difference is that Johnson and his clown government are paid to get things right.
There is one absolute certainty, I'm significantly better at my day job than than Bojo & Co and[u I dont tell lies to my customers or try to mislead them on a daily basis.[/u'"
Why are you trying to make this all about you?, having said that you do try and mislead people on here along with a couple of your mates with guff written in the Daily Blah, so maybe you and Boris have a few things in common and aren't that far apart in your thinking  , what's your take on tree planting and wind turbines btw.
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| Quote Mild Rover="Mild Rover"I think most of our contributors would do better in a think tank than Johnson and the rascals do in government… or would do on the Sin Bin, tbh.'"
I wouldn't disagree with you there squire  but in fairness to Boris and Co the debate would be so one sided I doubt Boris and the gang would get much of a chance to impart any serious input on the proceedings as I'm sure certain delegates representing the Sin Bin Party would overwhelmingly impede any efforts to bring about a logical and sensible solution with they're constant heckling.
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| Quote chissitt="chissitt"Why are you trying to make this all about you?, having said that you do try and mislead people on here along with a couple of your mates with guff written in the Daily Blah, so maybe you and Boris have a few things in common and aren't that far apart in your thinking
, what's your take on tree planting and wind turbines btw.'"
Chissitt says people on here should be in a thinktank.
A person on here agrees.
Chissitt says, "WHY ARE YOU MAKING THIS ALL ABOUT YOU???"

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