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| Quote wire-quin="wire-quin"Good to see Corbyns legacy of nastiness and hatred hasn't disappeared yet.'"
You do know he's gone now, right? The smear campaign is no longer necessary - you should have been stood down a few days ago.
What I'm finding interesting is every journalist telling me that the virus "does not discriminate," as if it's news; we already know that - it's a virus, not Nigel Farage.
Also interesting that Raab chose to suggest that Johnson will recover from COVID-19 "because he's a fighter." I really don't like that kind of language when related to illness - because it implies that people who die just weren't tough enough.
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"
Also interesting that Raab chose to suggest that Johnson will recover from COVID-19 "because he's a fighter." I really don't like that kind of language when related to illness - because it implies that people who die just weren't tough enough.'"
He'll recover if he was in good health prior to contracting the virus and he's lucky.
The intensive care figures are bloody desperate with just over 50% surviving, not so good for the rest.
Although it's fair to assume that as Prime Minister, he will be getting the best possible care, as you rightly say, this thing is totally indiscriminate.
The being "in good spirits" is more likely to be propaganda as, he's unlikely to be getting visitors.
Also, many with Covid 19, in intensive care, if not all, are heavily sedated so, he's not likely to be cracking any jokes.
Something to appease the masses and the markets ?
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"You do know he's gone now, right? The smear campaign is no longer necessary - you should have been stood down a few days ago.
What I'm finding interesting is every journalist telling me that the virus "does not discriminate," as if it's news; we already know that - it's a virus, not Nigel Farage.
Also interesting that Raab chose to suggest that Johnson will recover from COVID-19 "because he's a fighter." I really don't like that kind of language when related to illness - because it implies that people who die just weren't tough enough.'"
So all the nastiness has gone now, just suddenly disappeared Sat afternoon. Got it, Jezza made them hate the Jews. Now he's gone hes took them and there hatred with him.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"He'll recover if he was in good health prior to contracting the virus and he's lucky.
The intensive care figures are bloody desperate with just over 50% surviving, not so good for the rest.
Although it's fair to assume that as Prime Minister, he will be getting the best possible care, as you rightly say, this thing is totally indiscriminate.
The being "in good spirits" is more likely to be propaganda as, he's unlikely to be getting visitors.
Also, many with Covid 19, in intensive care, if not all, are heavily sedated so, he's not likely to be cracking any jokes.
Something to appease the masses and the markets ?'"
We're not being told the whole truth - but whatever the real situation, you can bet your bottom dollar that all the Dr's and nurses going anywhere near him will magically have all the PPE they need.
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| Quote wire-quin="wire-quin"So all the nastiness has gone now, just suddenly disappeared Sat afternoon. Got it, Jezza made them hate the Jews. Now he's gone hes took them and there hatred with him.'"
No - I mean that it didn't exist in the first place in any significant amount; and certainly no more than in any other party. And where it did exist, it certainly wasn't activated by Corbyn.
And what in the name of ar5e does this story have to do with the Jews?
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"You do know he's gone now, right? The smear campaign is no longer necessary - you should have been stood down a few days ago.
What I'm finding interesting is every journalist telling me that the virus "does not discriminate," as if it's news; we already know that - it's a virus, not Nigel Farage.
Also interesting that Raab chose to suggest that Johnson will recover from COVID-19 "because he's a fighter." I really don't like that kind of language when related to illness - because it implies that people who die just weren't tough enough.'"
It is no shock that the majority of people who die from this virus also have underlying serious conditions - similar to those that die from seasonal flu. I am constantly amazed at the power of the human spirit to battle illness - if you look at cancer patients with a survival goal it is amazing how many can fight off the illness through sheer human will. Tough enough might be a bad way of putting it be no reason to live might be another?
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"It is no shock that the majority of people who die from this virus also have underlying serious conditions - similar to those that die from seasonal flu. I am constantly amazed at the power of the human spirit to battle illness - if you look at cancer patients with a survival goal it is amazing how many can fight off the illness through sheer human will. Tough enough might be a bad way of putting it be no reason to live might be another?'"
You can fight off "normal" illness by being reasonably fit, with a healthy lifestyle and yes, a positive attitude can help.
However, you cant beat cancer or coronavirus just by being positive, drugs and decent medical car are what you need (in both cases).
Next off, you'll be advocating the US style church blessings to beat the virus ??
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"You can fight off "normal" illness by being reasonably fit, with a healthy lifestyle and yes, a positive attitude can help.
However, you cant beat cancer or coronavirus just by being positive, drugs and decent medical car are what you need (in both cases).
Next off, you'll be advocating the US style church blessings to beat the virus ??'"
You misunderstand - if you have a will to live you can significantly improve your outcome - look at war victims, cancer sufferers - you are naïve to under estimate the power of positive thinking - I think there many, many examples of its power. If you simply give up your demise will be swift. We only have to look at sport if you believe you can win you have more chance than if you beat before your start. There are many examples of people with the same illness and the impact of mental toughness on the outcome
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"You misunderstand - if you have a will to live you can significantly improve your outcome - look at war victims, cancer sufferers - you are naïve to under estimate the power of positive thinking - I think there many, many examples of its power. If you simply give up your demise will be swift. We only have to look at sport if you believe you can win you have more chance than if you beat before your start. There are many examples of people with the same illness and the impact of mental toughness on the outcome'"
There are also (too) many examples of healthy fit and positive young people who have died from cancer and other diseases, who have possessed all of the positivity and will power that you speak of and still ended up in the ground.
I'm sure that their families would be touched by your "wisdom" ??
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| So now we hear that Johnson is sitting up in bed and talking with the staff - that being the case, he isn't actually in ICU in the way that you or I would experience it, and never was; he's on a private floor of an NHS hospital, which I've no doubt is fully staffed and well equipped. After a few more days of ministers making trite comments about his toughness and resilience, he'll emerge having 'beaten' COVID-19, and the new narrative will be about Boris Johnson, the superhuman PM who tackled the virus singlehandedly, whilst still issuing instructions to the cabinet and being saucy with the nurses.
Stops us talking about the criminal lack of testing, failure to procure sufficient PPE, and the massively skewed death rates compared to our European neighbours.
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"So now we hear that Johnson is sitting up in bed and talking with the staff - that being the case, he isn't actually in ICU in the way that you or I would experience it, and never was; he's on a private floor of an NHS hospital, which I've no doubt is fully staffed and well equipped. After a few more days of ministers making trite comments about his toughness and resilience, he'll emerge having 'beaten' COVID-19, and the new narrative will be about Boris Johnson, the superhuman PM who tackled the virus singlehandedly, whilst still issuing instructions to the cabinet and being saucy with the nurses.
Stops us talking about the criminal lack of testing, failure to procure sufficient PPE, and the massively skewed death rates compared to our European neighbours.'"
All down to his positive mental attitude, apparently
Tbf Bren, he certainly wasn't well but, equally, he either hasn't been in intensive care or we are being played.
Until he comes out we wont know where the truth is, which is a surprise where Johnson is concerned - he's always been so open and honest previously 
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"All down to his positive mental attitude, apparently
Tbf Bren, he certainly wasn't well but, equally, he either hasn't been in intensive care or we are being played.
Until he comes out we wont know where the truth is, which is a surprise where Johnson is concerned - he's always been so open and honest previously
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Great to see the huge out pouring of support and concern from the country for our 'get it done' leader.
What does it matter if he's been in a private ward or intensive care. He runs the country and deserves the best. This isn't some communist, we are all equal state.
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