Since the Referendum has now been set, should voting be restricted to those within the 36% turnout from the last MEP elections - since I assume the other 64% didn't really care either way ?

If you actually listened to the news you would realised the charade has largely been about IN WORK Benefits.

More to the point will the several million migrant workers from other EU member states be allowed to vote? If so makes a mockery of the sovereignty angle.

Guess you get your news from the Mail or is it the Telegraph ?

One could argue that OAPs and ex-pats who live abroad, avoiding UK tax, that then return when they need medical care also a burden to the tax payer as well as immigrants.

Numerous sources, principally The Times and BBC but I read and listen widely.

At last a thread which isn't about whether there was a second gunman on the grass knoll and all that crap.



I'm firmly in the leave camp.

Whereas I consider what is written and said (from such sources) then form my own opinion.

So do I. But there is no question to opine on - you seemed to say work and benefits were mutually exclusive. The main thing that govt is concerned with is working family tax credits!!

The obsession with this question is utterly ridiculous.



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If staying or leaving were this important the decision would be taken out of your hands completely - see Obama's bailout of the banks in the wake of sub-prime (this despite losing two votes in the House of Representatives) or his signing up to TTIP.



Suffice to say that if I vote to leave Europe it won't be over the jurisdiction of the European Court, asylum seekers, strengthening Britain's borders or questionable economic data.



My complaint is largely to do with the EU being the Nazi superstate Hitler sought from the very beginning writ large by a living Nazi (Walter Hallstein) who funneled countless riches to his Nazi pals living in exile in South America (including Klaus Barbie, Josef Mengele, Adolf Eichmann, Otto Skorzeny, "Gestapo" Mueller and - likely - Martin Boorman) whilst for three decades they systematically brutalized that entire continent.

So far on Twitter I have seen not one positive reason to stay in from the in campaign - just some imaginary disasters of leaving. There are lots of positive reasons to leave though.



Some people, especially on the left, cite the "social model" as a reason to stay. That is plain daft because Germany can now see that the EU is inefficient and unsustainable in its present form from an economic perspective. The first thing to go will be workers rights / welfare. Furthermore, with mass immigration the seeds of a lurch to the Far Right have been well and truly sown. Two generations of Brits lost their lives fighting against German domination of Europe and this generation welcomes it. When that domination aligns with a shift to the far right the UK will be at the forefront of that alongside Germany, if we don't get out now. A frightening thought for a whole continent.

I have yet to make my mind up on whether to thought in or out.



Yes there are many things wrong with the EU, then on the other hand there are many good things that the EU have given us. It IMO this is the most important decision the people of this GREAT nation will have to make in many a year.



One thing I am sure is that if we vote to leave we will not have full control of our our borders. We have no way of stopping people jumping on a ferry from France to Ireland & then crossing the Irish/NI border as that is governed by a separate treaty.



Also the Scots will then have another vote on independence. I have many Scottish friends who voted No last time, but would vote Yes if we left the EU.



Also how would leaving the EU effect the structure of Superleague & the Catalans Dragons?