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| Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"... But hey, don't let facts get in the way of your rant.'"
But hey, don't let your apparent inability to think get in the way of you answering any questions directly, will you?
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| Osborne has stated that there will be no tax rises if the Tories win the next election and that the procted large shortfall that commentaors have said would need plugging from tax will be met by further reductions in spending, with welfare being considered an area that could take a bigger hit.
I suspect Ed will now announce that Labour would match Tory pledges if elected.
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| Quote Dally="Dally"Osborne has stated that there will be no tax rises if the Tories win the next election and that the procted large shortfall that commentaors have said would need plugging from tax will be met by further reductions in spending, with welfare being considered an area that could take a bigger hit.
I suspect Ed will now announce that Labour would match Tory pledges if elected.'"
Welfare gets it in the neck again. Just how does that clown expect people to live ? Maybe he should consider stopping overseas aid instead ?
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| Quote Sam Buca II="Sam Buca II"Very reasonable. Is that the dodgy handshake rate or the office rate?'"
We have a subsidiary business that deals solely with construction industry subbies (their returns are pretty straightforward usually, even if the clents themselves aren't always!)
That's their going rate for a tax return.
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| Quote Dead Man Walking="Dead Man Walking"Welfare gets it in the neck again. Just how does that clown expect people to live ? Maybe he should consider stopping overseas aid instead ?'"
Because the theory goes that everyone who is out of work is a malingerer and they are drawing billions in "unearned" income by sitting on their backsides doing nothing all day. The theory further states that the best way to get these people back to work is to starve them back to work, not in so many words, but basically the over-riding principle is that no-one should receive any money if they are not in work.
So far they seem to be carrying the general population with them thanks to a compliant (mainly printed) media doing all of the propaganda work on their behalf and probably at their bidding.
The fact that the unemployed figures contain people who are unable to work due to disability is also being re-written by the callous principle of simply sticking fingers in ears and repeating the mantra "You are fit to work regardless of what your medics say as they can't be trusted any more", the additional fact that the vast majority of benefits are paid to those IN work in order to bring them up to the "living wage" standard is simply brushed under the rug as you can't vilify those people in quite the same way if they are already doing what you recommend and proving that it still doesn't work.
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| Quote Dally="Dally"Osborne has stated that there will be no tax rises if the Tories win the next election and that the procted large shortfall that commentaors have said would need plugging from tax will be met by further reductions in spending, with welfare being considered an area that could take a bigger hit.
I suspect Ed will now announce that Labour would match Tory pledges if elected.'"
Osborne said he'd eliminate the deficit in one parliamentary term by cutting spending.
But he didn't, nowhere near.
Why believe more of the same?
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| Quote El Barbudo="El Barbudo"Osborne said he'd eliminate the deficit in one parliamentary term by cutting spending.
But he didn't, nowhere near.
Why believe more of the same?'"
Because it suits his ideological aims?
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| Quote Dally="Dally"Because it suits his ideological aims?'"
I meant why should anyone believe him the second time?
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| Quote El Barbudo="El Barbudo"I meant why should anyone believe him the second time?'"
They won't necessarily. But what's the alternative? A party lead by Clegg who signed the pledge not to increase tuition fees and within an indecently short period decided it was a good thing to treble them? Or maybe Ed Miliband, who owes his position and the very existence of his party to the Trades Unions but wants to have nothing to do with them? Could you trust either of those parties? No sane person could trust them. But at least in Osborne's case you are pretty sure his party would wish to destroy the welfare state (including the NHS, which is already being mentioned in the press as possibly losing its ring-fencing after the election and has suffered a great deal of negative publicity under the current idiot (IMO) of a minister, and previous idiot (IMO) of a minister, who has responsibility for it).
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| Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"Because the theory goes that everyone who is out of work is a malingerer and they are drawing billions in "unearned" income by sitting on their backsides doing nothing all day. The theory further states that the best way to get these people back to work is to starve them back to work, not in so many words, but basically the over-riding principle is that no-one should receive any money if they are not in work.
So far they seem to be carrying the general population with them thanks to a compliant (mainly printed) media doing all of the propaganda work on their behalf and probably at their bidding.
The fact that the unemployed figures contain people who are unable to work due to disability is also being re-written by the callous principle of simply sticking fingers in ears and repeating the mantra "You are fit to work regardless of what your medics say as they can't be trusted any more", the additional fact that the vast majority of benefits are paid to those IN work in order to bring them up to the "living wage" standard is simply brushed under the rug as you can't vilify those people in quite the same way if they are already doing what you recommend and proving that it still doesn't work.'"
And that's all before you start looking at how much of "welfare" spending goes on current pensioners - the attacking of which would be electoral suicide for a party dependent on the blue rinse brigade.
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"And that's all before you start looking at how much of "welfare" spending goes on current pensioners - the attacking of which would be electoral suicide for a party dependent on the blue rinse brigade.'"
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None of which really matters because as IDS so elegantly points out, he doesn't have to prove anything that he utters to anyone because if you can't disprove it then he is right by default, and to think, he could easily have been PM, this is probably the only time we can all say "Thank god for Cameron".
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| Just when you think you cannot be shocked much more ...
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