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| Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"But you aren't - and that is the whole point.
Its coincidental if someone takes council or HA property that under the NEW rules falls into the category of having an "extra" bedroom, the plain and simple fact is there are insufficient numbers of "correctly" roomed dwellings to satisfy the NEW rules.
Let me give you an example - you are a two parent, two child family, you have a boy aged 9 and a girl aged 8 years, you apply for LA or HA accomodation and you are in receipt of housing benefit, they offer you a three bedroomed house which being of a typical british standard is two double bedrooms and what we normally call "a box room", you accept it because it means that your children can have their own bedrooms.
From April 1st your housing benefit will be reduced by 14% because, according to the NEW rules your two children should be sharing one bedroom, despite the fact the the LA or HA never offered you a two bed unit and cannot offer you one still.
Just to rubber stamp the arbitory and punative nature of the NEW rules, if your two children were two boys and aged 14 and 15 then your housing benefit would still be reduced because some fekkwit decreed that they too should be sharing one bedroom.'"
Why shouldn't two teenage boys share a room???
And if the HA of LA can't offer you suitable accommodation, why not look to the private sector?
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| Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"Well they've got you hooked, good and proper.
If you lived in Poland in 1939 you'd be pointing out your local Jews to the police as "social failures".'"
Have you heard of Godwin's Law?
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"Why shouldn't two teenage boys share a room???
And if the HA of LA can't offer you suitable accommodation, why not look to the private sector?'"
Do you think social housing might be less expensive than renting from a private landlord generally, possibly, maybe?
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| Quote WIZEB="WIZEB"Do you think social housing might be less expensive than renting from a private landlord generally, possibly, maybe?'"
Maybe, but many manage it.
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"Maybe, but many manage it.'"
And how would you think that many of the poorest and those on low incomes manage to do that?
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"Why shouldn't two teenage boys share a room???
And if the HA of LA can't offer you suitable accommodation, why not look to the private sector?'"
[i "You covet and cannot obtain, so you fight and quarrel."[/i
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"Why shouldn't two teenage boys share a room???
And if the HA of LA can't offer you suitable accommodation, why not look to the private sector?'"
Is that your solution ?
Your LA and HA can't give you a two bed house so you find a private landlord who can and then claim your full housing benefit entitlement ?
Of course, everyone's life is so simple that they can just relocate for the sake of a government officials decree, it really is that simple isn't it - millions did it by government decree all over Europe in the 1940s.
We never saw them again of course, but still, I bet the housing benefit budget looked fantastic after that.
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"Have you heard of Godwin's Law?'"
Yup,
and I invoke it whenever the need arises, as it did with you just then, your track record of swallowing rhetoric, unfounded theories and outright lies goes before you, at best you're very gullible...
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"
And if the HA of LA can't offer you suitable accommodation, why not look to the private sector?'"
Of course they can go to the private sector, providing they can find a private landlord willing to accept tenants in receipt of housing benefit. Unfortunately such landlords are and have been reducing in number.
Should they find a landlord willing to accpt HB tenants, they will invariably be paying more in rent than to a social housing provider. More rent equals more housing benefit. As I pointed out earlier, this is the stupidity of the proposals, more money will be spent in the name of savings.
Complete and utter fu[ic[/ikwittery
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| At least some of the god squad (archbishopee person(s)) are understanding the immorality of this Governments welfare reform bill.
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| Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"Well they've got you hooked, good and proper.
If you lived in Poland in 1939 you'd be pointing out your local Jews to the police as "social failures".'"
Little different from the Victorian belief that, if someone was poor, then it was their own fault and the result of them being sinful.
You can see how that would appeal to Krikstaller, can't you?
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"Why shouldn't two teenage boys share a room???
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Because sometimes daddy doesn't have the energy to bang both and you can't give something to one and not the other. Just ask them priest blokes.
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