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| Quote rover49="rover49"... Of course, its all 'my fault' when I get home
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You sound surprised. 
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| Unless there is more to it, your wife's boss must be a clown. He or she actually took the time to ring her with news of a formal warning whilst she is absent due to a work related injury?? Worlds gone mad.
She didn't by any chance break her leg kicking the said boss did she?
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| Quote Ovavoo="Ovavoo"Unless there is more to it, your wife's boss must be a clown. He or she actually took the time to ring her with news of a formal warning whilst she is absent due to a work related injury?? Worlds gone mad.
She didn't by any chance break her leg kicking the said boss did she?'"
Or it could be that his wife's boss is acting under orders from his boss, who is taking orders from his boss, who is taking orders from his boss, who is taking orders from a committee set up to appease the union. In other words, his hands are tied and that he is compelled to follow procedure.
He probably didn't like making the call any more than she liked to receive it.
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| Quote ROBINSON="ROBINSON"Quote ROBINSON="Ovavoo"Unless there is more to it, your wife's boss must be a clown. He or she actually took the time to ring her with news of a formal warning whilst she is absent due to a work related injury?? Worlds gone mad.
She didn't by any chance break her leg kicking the said boss did she?'"
Or it could be that his wife's boss is acting under orders from his boss, who is taking orders from his boss, who is taking orders from his boss, who is taking orders from a committee set up to appease the union. In other words, his hands are tied and that he is compelled to follow procedure.
He probably didn't like making the call any more than she liked to receive it.'"
Poor boss. Doomed forever to blindly follow the commy unions as much as his/her heart yearns for freedom. He or she could have refused and then at the disciplinary meeting sought help from his/her union.
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| Quote Ovavoo="Ovavoo"Poor boss. Doomed forever to blindly follow the commy unions as much as his/her heart yearns for freedom. He or she could have refused and then at the disciplinary meeting sought help from his/her union.'"
SO basically, he's damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't, in your opinion.
That's a bit silly, isn't it?
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| Quote ROBINSON="ROBINSON"SO basically, he's damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't, in your opinion.
That's a bit silly, isn't it?'"
If this is correct: "Her boss (local authority) rang her today to tell her that he is giving her a formal warning for her sick record"
Then what he did is beyond "silly", whether he was "following orders" or not is completely immaterial. The bloke's an imbecile
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| Quote ROBINSON="ROBINSON"SO basically, he's damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't, in your opinion.
That's a bit silly, isn't it?'"
Let's be clear though: what you have suggested is not even opinion, but the foisting of a scenario from a different case onto this one.
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"If this is correct: "Her boss (local authority) rang her today to tell her that he is giving her a formal warning for her sick record"
Then what he did is beyond "silly", whether he was "following orders" or not is completely immaterial. The bloke's an imbecile'"
OK, I get what you're saying.
So you're saying he should refuse to do the warning, then possibly end up with a warning (or worse) himself?
That said, for both parties, there will be a right to appeal, which is all well and good, if not a pain in the arsse to go through.
What none of us know, is the boss's attitude to it all. Did he ring and say "look, I'm sorry, but I HAVE to give you a warning as it's policy, but you can appeal, I'll back you up, you should be ok and I believe the policy is rubbish" or did he say "you're off sick, I'm warning you, tough titty"
There's a world of difference between those two attitudes - the former is not that of an imbecile, but the latter certainly would be.
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| I think we could deduce that her boss was a clown by the fact the words works for local authority were used 
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| Just looked up my companys for an example
Quote There are 3 clear stages to the trigger system:
• Every occurrence of absence will trigger a Return to Work Interview
• Where an individual has 3 occurrences of absence in a rolling 12-month period, this will trigger a meeting where a File Note will be issued
• Where there are 4 plus occurrences of sickness absence in a rolling 12-month period, disciplinary action may follow, if it is established that there is no underlying health issue
Long-term absence will continue to be managed sympathetically, in a considered way, but is clearly defined in the new Policy as absence of four weeks or longer, which again, will ensure that there is consistency of approach going forward.
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The RRTWI is fairly common these days and a good way to cover both parties in a semi-informal way, a good chance to discuss any problmes, but is not disciplinary.
The File Note is similar, but more formal, but still not disciplinary.
Trigger point 3 is and thats for 4 absences, but thats only if theres no great reason. If there is good reason then its referred to our Occ Health advisors etc
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| Quote Hutchie="Hutchie"I think we could deduce that her boss was a clown by the fact the words works for local authority were used
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As opposed to, say, the bloke who runs Iceland?
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| Quote ROBINSON="ROBINSON"... What none of us know... '"
... is very much. You're assuming, for instance, that the boss did not decide to make the call off his own bat.
You don't know that. Neither do I. He might have been told to do it. He might not have. But you're making an assumption.
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