A better actor and President would have been Paul Newman. I suspect Clint would have got into character and blown half the world to bits, whereas Newman would have been too cool to start shooting off nuclear weapons.

Steve McQueen would have been the coolest.

It was put in the constitution at the very beginning of the US being independent as it was felt it was a measure needed to help protect the new country. What never happened was as the need for its ordinary citizens to be readily armed decreased and then basically ceased they didn't revise the constitution (as they have done in other areas) to remove the right. I guess it should never have been a right in the first place but a duty which might have made it easier to get rid of.



Now the gun-lobby will cite this right and the yanks are so certain the constitution protects their freedom's it will never be amended out of it.



What does my head in though is the blindingly obvious facts that legal gun ownership making guns so readily available is a big reason for these killings is argued against by all an and sundry over there. Many legally bought guns are also stolen and used in crime so even the cases where illegally held weapons were used can be traced back to the simple fact there is such a plentiful supply.



Even over here the few gun massacres we have had have been virtually all been carried out by people with a legal right to own the guns they used.

Actually, the newly independent USA was governed by the Articles of Confederation, individual citizens freedoms and rights established by the Bill of Rights , the first 10 amendments to the US constitution, came later.

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Quote rumpelstiltskin="rumpelstiltskin"A better actor and President would have been Paul Newman. '" Quote rumpelstiltskin="BrisbaneRhino"Steve McQueen would have been the coolest.'" Two of my all time favorite actors. Particularly Newman. I'm still partial to Newman's own to this day. It's my way of giving back. Below are two fantastic profiles of the men in question. I can't quite think why I like these two particular biography's over other's written. rolexblog.blogspot.co.uk/2010/05 ... ewman.html rolexblog.blogspot.co.uk/2009/11 ... queen.html

Time to act Mr Obama and friends.....

I think you'll find the President attempted to sit down with the NRA in 2011 to discuss gun control but the mainly right-wing nutjobs weren't having any of it.



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Hopefully public opinion will shift massively now after this and the NRA voices will be a small minority.

The scary thing is I've just heard an American guy on the news saying that maybe an answer is to have teachers armed so they can protect themselves

I find this anti american attitude very unfair.



America is an equal opportunity country.



They execute people who are mentally ill and also have such lax gun rules that mentally ill people can own guns.



There are not many countries in the world that have such an equal opportunities approach to mental health

I've just been reading comment's on another forum I visit which has a lot of American's and I just can't get my head around their view's.

A lot of them still think that owning a gun is a good thing.



"people will still do these sort of thing's even if they are illegal"



Yep, of course they would, but by putting gun's in the hands of those people surely they are a big part of the problem.





Personally, I think they should be banned. however It would take decades to clear thing's up. How would they be able to trace and confiscate what I can only imagine to be a massive amount of guns. However banning them is the first step. If they are banned guns won't be "normalised" and maybe attitudes towards them can over time start to change.

But guns don't kill people...