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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"Whatever the true facts of what happened, Winfrey has jumped to a totally unwarranted conclusion, that the only reason anyone would think she wouldn't be interested in a £30K handbag must be coz she's black innit.
If I worked in such a shop, to me the worse thing would be to get the 30K bag to show someone, they examine it and really like it, but are then humiliated when asking the price since it is way out of their league, as it would be for 99% of the population.
Why couldn't the conversation go
"Can i see that bag?"
I don't think you could afford it"
"Yes, I could, actually"
"Really? Well, if you're sure. I didn't want to embarrass you."
I might continue:
" Honestly you're the first person I ever met who is so crassly dumb and insensitive as to even consider trashing such an unconscionable amount of good money on a piece of pretentious crap just because they can. "'"
Why couldn't the conversation just go
"Can I see that bag?"
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| Quote El Barbudo="El Barbudo"Why couldn't the conversation just go
"Can I see that bag?"
"Certainly"'"
Presumably, part of the the sales assistant's role is to stop time wasters handling the £30k bag, and as such they have to make sure that the person can actually afford it before they man-handle it.
I guess the conversation actually started:
"Can I see that bag?"
"Are you sure you can afford it, it is £30k?"
Throw in a bit of cross-lingual confusion, and results in Oprah storming off in a huff, probably with a "don't you know who I am" |
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"I might continue:
" Honestly you're the first person I ever met who is so crassly dumb and insensitive as to even consider trashing such an unconscionable amount of good money on a piece of pretentious crap just because they can. "'"
You are Gerald Ratner and I claim my piece of tat |
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| Quote EHW="EHW"Presumably, part of the the sales assistant's role is to stop time wasters handling the £30k bag, and as such they have to make sure that the person can actually afford it before they man-handle it.'"
My wife was very upset at the look the shop assistant gave her when she admitted that she couldn't actually afford the 400 euro handbag she'd fallen in love with.
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| Quote Lord God Jose Mourinho="Lord God Jose Mourinho"No it didn't.
Which became "waited 2hrs, patiently and were refused service because another customer (White) felt threatened by us" on Mike London's Facebook post.'"
So it does then. |
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| Quote El Barbudo="El Barbudo"Why couldn't the conversation just go
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Why are you asking me a question I already answered?  |
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"Why are you asking me a question I already answered?
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It's called a rhetorical question.  |
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| Quote Sheldon="Sheldon"So it does then.'"
It doesn't say that the customer felt threatened because they were black though.
White person complaining about a group of black people is racism? How? |
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| Quote El Barbudo="El Barbudo"It's called a rhetorical question.
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No it isn't! For a start, the question suggested: "Can I see that bag" is not a rhetorical question; even if it was, or could be, the post provided the answer to the question, whereas the whole point of a rhetorical question is it implies its own answer. So it fails on every count It's about as far away from being a rhetorical question as Eric Pickles is from svelte! |
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| Quote wigan_rlfc="wigan_rlfc"It doesn't say that the customer felt threatened because they were black though.
White person complaining about a group of black people is racism? How?'"
I never said it did. |
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"No it isn't! For a start, the question suggested: "Can I see that bag" is not a rhetorical question; even if it was, or could be, the post provided the answer to the question, whereas the whole point of a rhetorical question is it implies its own answer. So it fails on every count It's about as far away from being a rhetorical question as Eric Pickles is from svelte!'"
Not that question.
The question that asks "Why couldn't it be ...." is the rhetorical one because it seems obvious to me that answer to "Can I see that bag" could just as easily have been "Certainly".
Happy to clear that up. |
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I don't think we've travelled very far yet. All that has happened is that people are more familiar with non-white people because there are now many more of them (there were virtually none 50 years ago outside of a few small areas in big cities / sea ports) and they have been around for a couple of generations. Accordingly, the worst excesses of fear-driven racism have all but vanished. However, I think it will be another few decades before racism both inherent and 'institutional' in the UK will fade
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