Correct, Clay became Ali shortly after the Liston fight, I think London fought him a few years later.

It's not a bonus in the conventional sense. Ashley takes no other income from the company, he doesn't even draw a salary from it. If the company hits pre-agreed targets then he gets well rewarded, if they don't then he doesn't.

Hilarious coming from you.

Unless you consider that pop-up, make an unproven comment and then play forum hide-and-seek constitutes constructing an argument.

Wasting your time.

The shareholders at SD seem to be on top of the situation even if random internet posters aren't.

No smoke and daggers or BS bombs.

All pretty transparent as far as one can see.



And well done SD, 72K an employee.





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Quote WIZEB="WIZEB"Wasting your time. The shareholders at SD seem to be on top of the situation even if random internet posters aren't. No smoke and daggers or BS bombs. All pretty transparent as far as one can see. And well done SD, 72K an employee. [urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/jul/18/sports-direct-staff-bonus-mike-ashley[/url'" Yep. www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011 ... ntive-plan

Quote WIZEB="WIZEB"Wasting your time. The shareholders at SD seem to be on top of the situation even if random internet posters aren't. No smoke and daggers or BS bombs. All pretty transparent as far as one can see. And well done SD, 72K an employee. [urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/jul/18/sports-direct-staff-bonus-mike-ashley[/url'" Yep. www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011 ... ntive-plan

Steve Jobs took a salary of $1 a year from Apple when he went back.



No doubt UNWISEC would offer Jobs a huge









for that.



But the details behind that were that he was getting billions from being granted shares. He even had his booty spanked because of an illegal share option he signed off on, if I remember correctly.



And, oh yeah, his employment contract also gave him a fully expensed company vehicle to use as he pleased. That company vehicle just happened to be a Gulfstream private jet. I don't know how much they cost back then, but they go for about $50m now.



My point ever since I got involved in this thread that it's not the headlines that matter, it's the details.

And if you read the comments, only 2,000 of his 18,000 staff are eligible for the bonuses.



The other 16,000 are on zero hour contracts.



But obviously, details like this make no difference to you. (I don't know whether they are even true, but they paint a different picture from the headlines.)

Listen, I'm sick of you but you obviously don't want to argue just the [idetail[/i.

You invented an imaginary, hypothetical figure of 50 million that Ashley might receive to argue the toss.

You made it up, it's bollox, a hand detonated BS bomb thrown in by yourself.

From what I've read the shareholders knocked him back on half that amount.



Do you, or do you not think SD's intended bonus scheme to it's employees is commendable?

I do not know whether SD's bonus scheme is good or bad. In the headlines it's sounds great. On deeper reading it sounds like it's a bonus scheme that will massively benefit a lot of already very well paid people, maybe some lucky long time shop workers, but the vast majority of the employees will get nothing out of it and will be just hoping that they don't get their hours cut down to zero.



If I was a board member and I was pocketing a million I'd be celebrating. If I was a hardworking, minimum wage zero hours worker who busted by ass last year I'd feel like a mug and look for somewhere new to work.



Without having access to the entire details of the scheme I cannot judge. Judging by the headlines means it looks great. The deeper facts it just looks like the rich get richer and the poor worker gets screwed.



From where I'm sitting, it just sounds very fishy. But the truth is that I don't know and I probably never will be in a position to receive enough of the details to properly judge.

Progress, I've been owned, we'll draw a line under it and move on.

Me neither.

Mind you, I decided that two pages ago.

Well I *knew* it even I read the original link.



But you can still judge the figures that are presented before you.