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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"I was merely pointing out the juxtaposition that Cameron was ready to do exactly the same with the same partner but he was saved by Parliament. I would ask therefore why he should avoid similar disgust because over his time in office he achieved much less than Blair.
I am sorry you are getting desperate to try to regain your self esteem but my original post did fit into the topic but I should have mentioned the word Blair to make it easier for you to understand the comparison.'"
So if as you say the majority Tory Government and the also rans in parliament stopped Cameron from doing the same thing, then why didn't the Labour stooges in parliament stop Sir Tony from doing the same earlier, he shouldn't as you rightly say avoid disgust so why don't you start a thread on it, I'm sure all those acquaintances of yours suspiciously quiet at the moment would relish the opportunity to voice an opinion, oh and fwiw please note I did give praise to Sir Tony for his efforts in Northern Ireland with the IRA, and if you were honest for once you'd admit that I've never praised your mate deprifferol once.
Not sure how bringing David Cameron into a thread about Sir Tony Blair fits, except in your agenda, can't wait to see what you come up with Terresa Green.
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| It’s not a question of why one did (Blair) and one didn’t (Cameron) but the fact that the former is tarnished where the latter is not despite both agreeing to back the USA in a war one in Iraq and one in Syria. I think it is fair to put this under a topic about the actions of one which would have been duplicated by another.
I hope I don’t have to dumb it down again for you but I can Blair bad by winning the vote and Cameron not by losing the vote. With regards the latter this was actually helped by Blair because it highlighted the problems of going into the Middle East, so much so that Parliament did not have the stomach to do so again.
I don’t have any acquaintances on here because unlike you I don’t know or claim to know them even a little bit I leave that to you because that is your modus operandi.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"It’s not a question of why one did (Blair) and one didn’t (Cameron) but the fact that the former is tarnished where the latter is not despite both agreeing to back the USA in a war one in Iraq and one in Syria. I think it is fair to put this under a topic about the actions of one which would have been duplicated by another.
I hope I don’t have to dumb it down again for you but I can Blair bad by winning the vote and Cameron not by losing the vote. With regards the latter this was actually helped by Blair because it highlighted the problems of going into the Middle East, so much so that Parliament did not have the stomach to do so again.
I don’t have any acquaintances on here because unlike you I don’t know or claim to know them even a little bit I leave that to you because that is your modus operandi.'"
Why wouldn't the former be tarnished? The "evidence" / "intelligence" he presented to the house in order to obtain the backing for military action was not correct.
Maybe if Cameron had presented some fictitious evidence he may have won the vote.
Poor poor effort at defending Blair 1/10.
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| Quote TURFEDOUT="TURFEDOUT"Why wouldn't the former be tarnished? The "evidence" / "intelligence" he presented to the house in order to obtain the backing for military action was not correct.
Maybe if Cameron had presented some fictitious evidence he may have won the vote.
Poor poor effort at defending Blair 1/10.'"
Even he couldn't defend the indefensible, just simply a pathetic attempt at trying to deflect from the embarrassment of the former Labour leader by including Cameron, your 1/10 is quite fair, I assume it's for predictability and not for the lack of substance.
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| Quote chissitt="chissitt"People can say what they want about Blair and the Iraq conflict, but I thought he did a good job trying to solve the problems in Northern Ireland sorting out the IRA if that's the right wording.'"
If any 'sorting out' was done it was on BOTH sides of the divide, and most of it was done by the late Mo Mowlem, Blair swanned in to take the credit pretty much as it was a done deal.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"It’s not a question of why one did (Blair) and one didn’t (Cameron) but the fact that the former is tarnished where the latter is not despite both agreeing to back the USA in a war one in Iraq and one in Syria. I think it is fair to put this under a topic about the actions of one which would have been duplicated by another.
[uI hope I don’t have to dumb it down again for you[/u but I can Blair bad by winning the vote and Cameron not by losing the vote. With regards the latter this was actually helped by Blair because it highlighted the problems of going into the Middle East, so much so that Parliament did not have the stomach to do so again.
I don’t have any acquaintances on here because unlike you I don’t know or claim to know them even a little bit I leave that to you because that is your modus operandi.'"
Is this another of your American euphemisms?
The term acquaintances was tongue in cheek as I know your known as Billy no mates apart from lebron whom I'm sure you'll deny knowing anyway, just an observation really, but I notice your still in denial 
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| Quote TURFEDOUT="TURFEDOUT"Why wouldn't the former be tarnished? The "evidence" / "intelligence" he presented to the house in order to obtain the backing for military action was not correct.
Maybe if Cameron had presented some fictitious evidence he may have won the vote.
Poor poor effort at defending Blair 1/10.'"
It's hard to offer balanced "evidence" with the US presidents hand up you rear end.
Let's face it, there isn't a UK PM that would defy the US, not of any political persuasion, apart from the maybe the Lib Dems but, they will never have to make the call.
It's the price that "we" pay for having their "protection".
If they say jump, it's just a matter of how high.
The daily Evidence" of WMD was just embarrassing and it's no surprise that, even now, nothing had been discovered.
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| Quote chissitt="chissitt"Is this another of your American euphemisms?
The term acquaintances was tongue in cheek as I know your known as Billy no mates apart from lebron whom I'm sure you'll deny knowing anyway, just an observation really, but I notice your still in denial
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A friend like you makes not having any a positive even if it is true. I don’t know if you are still getting third hand information about me but I can definitely confirm that my first hand knowledge does not know this made up name unless you think I move in the world of the NBA.
I presume you get the irony of your post because I cannot see the connection with the topic maybe you should start a new one about how many friends each member has.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"It's hard to offer balanced "evidence" with the US presidents hand up you rear end.
Let's face it, there isn't a UK PM that would defy the US, not of any political persuasion, apart from the maybe the Lib Dems but, they will never have to make the call.
It's the price that "we" pay for having their "protection".
If they say jump, it's just a matter of how high.
The daily Evidence" of WMD was just embarrassing and it's no surprise that, even now, nothing had been discovered.'"
Hugh Grant defied the US !!! Does that count?
Unfortunately for Blair, many people will only remember him for the WMD fiasco.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"A friend like you makes not having any a positive even if it is true. I don’t know if you are still getting third hand information about me[u but I can definitely confirm that my first hand knowledge does not know this made up name unless you think I move in the world of the NBA.[/u
I presume you get the irony of your post because I cannot see the connection with the topic maybe you should start a new one about how many friends each member has.'"
Below is a post from an acquaintance of yours even though you deny having any, he has a penchant for NBA players, another one of his is Steph Curry hope that helps
Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="TheWarringtonWolve69"The only reason I visit the sin bin these days is to read SP’s daily beat down on chissitt. It’s hilarious'"
Another one that uses American euphemisms, scary.
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| Quote chissitt="chissitt"Even he couldn't defend the indefensible, just simply a pathetic attempt at trying to deflect from the embarrassment of the former Labour leader by including Cameron, your 1/10 is quite fair, I assume it's for predictability and not for the lack of substance.'"
TBF i am a reasonable person - i gave it 1/10 as there was no blame attached to Trinity!!

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| To be an acquaintance needs me to know him or her a little bit but your posts suggest this fits you better than me squire and once again you are deflecting from your own shortcomings and not staying on topic, naughty, naughty.
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