Quite a few I would imagine, if only on a part time basis to subsidise they're or their partners low income in rural areas.

They have been trying to recruit local pickers for many years without any success. It is not one of those jobs they consider fits their ambitions plus it is hard work, with early starts and in all weathers.

Seem to think you've mentioned this before in comparison to lorry drivers and white collar workers.

No I said I was a white collar worker and you were a lorry driver neither were in relation to the work load, a person’s ambitions or the weather that I am afraid is your imagination.

I agree - apart maybe with the ‘plenty of notice’ part.



Weird to see the Tories shift the balance from capital to labour, even accidentally. It’ll be interesting to where we go from here.



If we can get shot of Johnson and his personal political need to keep on stoking tensions with the EU and keep Brexit as a live issue, the next election and the main party’s manifestos could be very interesting.

The EU by actually giving more on the NI protocol to make trade easier than we initially wanted increases the pressure on the U.K. government. The EU know that Boris will not accept it even though it is better than he initially signed for because he wants to actually cancel the entire protocol and look to blame the EU however they have made this difficult to achieve. The world will continue to wonder if they can trust any contract he signs should he implement Article 16.

He agreed it, he signed it and he announced it was the greatest deal so it will be his to own despite his efforts to blame others. I guess the EU know the type of operator Boris is and I doubt it troubles them one little bit because they know he will make a mistake leading to another crisis.

Which rag did you read all that from?

I'm not sure that Labour should be trying to fight the next election an a Brexit agenda.

Regardless if it has gone badly, they become an easy target for the opposition, in that "it's what the people voted for".



On the subject of labour shortages, the simple question is, would our labour issues be better or worse had we not left the EU.

It probably wouldn't be as bad, certainly in certain industries, but it would still be happening. It's a global problem.

Labour should definitely be putting forward a vision and agenda for a post-Brexit reality. It has been cack, but there’s no way of going back and uncacking it.



It’d be best for the country if the Tories did too, and very interesting. Labour has a cleaner slate, whereas the Tories have four or five main competing visions. They’re not all mutually exclusive but there’s definitely tension between some of them and at some point one or two will have to be given more prominence, which’ll leave some parts of the Brexit alliance feeling betrayed. The first question though is whether Johnson and Frost can keep creating nonsense arguments with the EU to rile up enough people so that they don’t need to bother with anything more than empty slogans.

The first question though is whether Johnson and Frost can keep creating nonsense arguments with the EU to rile up enough people so that they don’t need to bother with anything more than empty slogans.'"

Things are only obvious to those who like you think things are obvious, to the rest of us without the insight you possess not so.