Where next, France, Holland, Germany........EU?? the people are speaking.



Maybe people don't want borders to be broken down, maybe they like what they had in the past.

Short memories some people or on the other hand those with memories of 1939-45 aren't around anymore.

Indeed.

The saying about keeping friends close and enemies closer seems to have no relevance.

We are shrinking back into our little island and expecting to be listened to by the rest of the world.

Our voice may not have had huge significance within the EU but, we were one on the larger players.

Now, we have given that voice up and we will still have to dance to their tune and obey their rules and get zero input.



Politicians used to get grief and ridicule if they changed their minds or broke promises but, we seem to have entered a new era, where you can say whatever comes into your head, without consequence.



Talk about be careful what you wish for ?

I think you will find we had plenty of clout. Now we don't.







Post-factual democracy is the term. It would be interesting if it wasn't so scary. People are easily manipulated and are so because IMO many are just too lazy to bother to find out of there is any basis in what politicians are saying. Far too ready to accept the first thing they read and given the immediacy of the Internet and on-line propaganda from the likes of the Mail far too ready to accept the written word as gospel.



What ever happened to the adage "That just because it is written on a web page doesn't mean it is true?"

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Trump can give it all the big'uns he wants he will be like most before him ...a puppet for Israel and the 1% and if he doesn't tow the line he end up just JFK did !!!

John Lennon saw all this coming when he penned ' Nobody told me '



Strange days indeed

That used to be the case but in this age of information overload we have 24/7 news, social media, bloggers, online opinion pieces, forums, message boards, comments sections and celebrities wanting in on the action. There are literally thousands of different versions of the same story. Everyone has become a self certified political expert. Just look at recent events; Russell Brand's crusade against capitalism, Lily Allen as the representative of the Calais migrants and Gary Linekar seems to have taken it upon himself to be the mouthpiece of the liberal left. We live in bat crazy times and politics is reflecting them, if anything Trump isn't nuts enough!

It's ok, Lily Allen is starting a revolution tomorrow apparently

Surely the point is that it is STILL the case and even more so[i because[/i all these outlets are setting themselves up as self proclaimed experts scepticism should be even greater. It clearly isn't and the problem is people want to be fed information instead of going to have a look for themselves. A case in point being just about anything to do with how the EU works. It's all there on the EU web sites to go and find out how democratic (or not) the thing is or how it works but people could not be d because farage or whoever told them it was some sort of German led dictatorship. Does my head in people can't be bothered to go and question things for themselves.

I honestly can't see Trump lasting the full four years - either he'll resign (doubt it) or will get shot.

7% of Americans have a passport. Around 70% of Americans have never travelled more than 30 miles from wher they were born. Most American TV stations don't show a news programme.

The terminally stupid voted and won, just like happened here.

Somehow, as an example, you get the feeling that in America the voters now believe their factories will reopen overnight, they will get a job and continue to produce the kind of crap that caused the problem in the first place.

2017 will be a " fun " year.