Two entirely different things, far be it for me to defend Harman but she has explained the situation with the NCCL and how she wasn't linked to or supported any of the more seedy elements within its membership, and how it was simply a smear campaign by the Daily Mail - as soon as that toilet paper gets mentioned then all credibility of any truth to the story goes out of the window.



On the other hand you don't accidentally donate money to an organisation without supporting its cause especially an organisation that only has one cause - its simply not possible to donate a decent wad of money to a single issue organisation and then afterwards say "Oh I didn't know they did that", nor is it a newspaper smear attempt for he quite openly admits it, opposing equality for gay people is homophobic behaviour, its very simple really.









You ?

Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"opposing equality for gay people is homophobic behaviour, its very simple really.'" Opposing the introduction of gay marriage laws is not the same as opposing equality for gay people. Quote JerryChicken="Andrew Sullivan"The whole episode disgusts me – as it should disgust anyone interested in a tolerant and diverse society. If this is the gay rights movement today – hounding our opponents with a fanaticism more like the religious right than anyone else – then count me out.'" dish.andrewsullivan.com/2014/04/ ... ndan-eich/

Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"opposing equality for gay people is homophobic behaviour, its very simple really.'" Opposing the introduction of gay marriage laws is not the same as opposing equality for gay people. Quote JerryChicken="Andrew Sullivan"The whole episode disgusts me – as it should disgust anyone interested in a tolerant and diverse society. If this is the gay rights movement today – hounding our opponents with a fanaticism more like the religious right than anyone else – then count me out.'" dish.andrewsullivan.com/2014/04/ ... ndan-eich/

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"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

Unless, of course, as a moderator on these boards, you say something that is in breach of the AUP in which case instead of defending your "right" to say it I will delete it and you will be warned or banned.

There's an AUP??

How on earth do you manage to work that one out?

Quite easily. I am for equal rights for gay people. I do not personally care one way or the other whether gays are given the right to marry. So the issues are clearly not the same for me.



There will be some gay people who are anti-marriage like I am and don't want the gay marriage laws to pass. So is it okay by you if these gay people are labelled as anti-gays and run out of their jobs as well?



Jerry Chicken is coming straight out and calling this guy a homophobe based solely on the fact he donated money to the campaign not to allow same sex marriage. But 7 million people voted his way in the vote. Are all of these 7 million people certified homophobes now and should be disqualified from ever being a CEO of a company?

That was the point at which I searched the list of Smilies again for one that shrugs its shoulders and walks away shaking its head.

Thats probably as fine an example of twisted logic as you will ever read.

Indeed. But something that those of a discriminatory nature like to forget about free speech is that they are protected from prosecution by the state but not from public opinion.

Seems to me we are entering dangerous territory where the self-appointed sheep-like thought police hound people and cyber bully them for holding perfectly reasonable views. This is a very important issue and is just as much an assault on freedom of thought and speech than that from certain governments. There is nothing more dangerous to humanity than unthinking group-"thinking". At some point people will be killed through this (very probably as a backlash against this sort of PC nonsense).