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| Quote Lord God Jose Mourinho="Lord God Jose Mourinho"How do they know 1) That the complaint was from a white person 2) That race was the reason they didn't want them seated near them.
They were asked to leave when one of them whipped out their cell phone and started recording. Would you have accepted someone sticking a camera in your face and recording you?
It's like Oprah Winfrey's recent call that she was racially discriminated against because a Swiss sales assistant didn't think she could afford to buy their stupidly expensive handbags. But the fact is that very few people are that rich to be able to waste so much money on crap. Part of the woman's job would have been to not let poor people handle $35,000 hand bags.
So the woman wrongly thought Winfrey couldn't afford to waste that much money. She was clearly wrong. Winfrey could have easily and bitchily pointed that out, but instead she chose to go on TV to whine about it. It MIGHT have been racism, but it could have had nothing to do with race.'"
It's said in the report.
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| Quote Lord God Jose Mourinho="Lord God Jose Mourinho"...Would you have accepted someone sticking a camera in your face and recording you?
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It says that someone started videoing it, that is not necessarily the same as your assertion about "sticking a camera in your face".
You have assumed aggression by the videoing person but the report does not mention or imply it.
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| Quote Lord God Jose Mourinho="Lord God Jose Mourinho" ...So the woman wrongly thought Winfrey couldn't afford to waste that much money. She was clearly wrong. Winfrey could have easily and bitchily pointed that out ...'"
Are you sure she didn't?
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| Quote Sheldon="Sheldon"It's said in the report.'"
No it didn't.
Quote Sheldon="Michael Brown"She said there’s a situation where one of our customers feels threatened by your party,'"
Which became "waited 2hrs, patiently and were refused service because another customer (White) felt threatened by us" on Mike London's Facebook post.
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Quote Lord God Jose Mourinho="Lord God Jose Mourinho"...
It's like Oprah Winfrey's recent call that she was racially discriminated against because a Swiss sales assistant didn't think she could afford to buy their stupidly expensive handbags. But the fact is that very few people are that rich to be able to waste so much money on crap. Part of the woman's job would have been to not let poor people handle $35,000 hand bags.
So the woman wrongly thought Winfrey couldn't afford to waste that much money. She was clearly wrong. Winfrey could have easily and bitchily pointed that out, but instead she chose to go on TV to whine about it. It MIGHT have been racism, but it could have had nothing to do with race.'"
Except the actual assistant denies she did any such, and says Oprah made it up.
www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/opra ... ow-2157350
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Quote Lord God Jose Mourinho="Lord God Jose Mourinho"...
It's like Oprah Winfrey's recent call that she was racially discriminated against because a Swiss sales assistant didn't think she could afford to buy their stupidly expensive handbags. But the fact is that very few people are that rich to be able to waste so much money on crap. Part of the woman's job would have been to not let poor people handle $35,000 hand bags.
So the woman wrongly thought Winfrey couldn't afford to waste that much money. She was clearly wrong. Winfrey could have easily and bitchily pointed that out, but instead she chose to go on TV to whine about it. It MIGHT have been racism, but it could have had nothing to do with race.'"
Except the actual assistant denies she did any such, and says Oprah made it up.
www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/opra ... ow-2157350
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I was just writing from seeing a clip of Winfrey. Winfrey claimed that as an example of clear racism, to me it COULD have been racism, but could have just as easily have been a misunderstanding.
The shop assistant has a completely different version of events.
No one apart from those two know what happened. The shop assistant is probably going to deny doing anything wrong, even if she did. But Winfrey could have easily complained to a manager about the store assistant and chose not to.
Did Winfrey cause this storm on purpose, to campaign about racism, or was her comment an unguarded comment to a journo that happened to be followed up by media around the world? I haven't followed this story, but I knew of Winfrey's interview and I later saw a Sky reporter interviewing a male assistant at the store who was explaining that she didn't work there any more.
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I was just writing from seeing a clip of Winfrey. Winfrey claimed that as an example of clear racism, to me it COULD have been racism, but could have just as easily have been a misunderstanding.
The shop assistant has a completely different version of events.
No one apart from those two know what happened. The shop assistant is probably going to deny doing anything wrong, even if she did. But Winfrey could have easily complained to a manager about the store assistant and chose not to.
Did Winfrey cause this storm on purpose, to campaign about racism, or was her comment an unguarded comment to a journo that happened to be followed up by media around the world? I haven't followed this story, but I knew of Winfrey's interview and I later saw a Sky reporter interviewing a male assistant at the store who was explaining that she didn't work there any more.
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| Quote Dead Man Walking="Dead Man Walking"What did you tell this customer who complained to you ?'"
Fortunately I was not the one who received the complaint, but if I did I no doubt wouldn't have a job on the grounds of being disrespectful to customers...
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| Whatever the true facts of what happened, Winfrey has jumped to a totally unwarranted conclusion, that the only reason anyone would think she wouldn't be interested in a £30K handbag must be coz she's black innit.
If I worked in such a shop, to me the worse thing would be to get the 30K bag to show someone, they examine it and really like it, but are then humiliated when asking the price since it is way out of their league, as it would be for 99% of the population.
Why couldn't the conversation go
"Can i see that bag?"
I don't think you could afford it"
"Yes, I could, actually"
"Really? Well, if you're sure. I didn't want to embarrass you."
I might continue:
" Honestly you're the first person I ever met who is so crassly dumb and insensitive as to even consider trashing such an unconscionable amount of good money on a piece of pretentious crap just because they can. "
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"Whatever the true facts of what happened, Winfrey has jumped to a totally unwarranted conclusion, that the only reason anyone would think she wouldn't be interested in a £30K handbag must be coz she's black innit.
If I worked in such a shop, to me the worse thing would be to get the 30K bag to show someone, they examine it and really like it, but are then humiliated when asking the price since it is way out of their league, as it would be for 99% of the population.
Why couldn't the conversation go
"Can i see that bag?"
I don't think you could afford it"
"Yes, I could, actually"
"Really? Well, if you're sure. I didn't want to embarrass you."
I might continue:
" Honestly you're the first person I ever met who is so crassly dumb and insensitive as to even consider trashing such an unconscionable amount of good money on a piece of pretentious crap just because they can. "'"
Why couldn't the conversation just go
"Can I see that bag?"
"Certainly"
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| Quote El Barbudo="El Barbudo"Why couldn't the conversation just go
"Can I see that bag?"
"Certainly"'"
Presumably, part of the the sales assistant's role is to stop time wasters handling the £30k bag, and as such they have to make sure that the person can actually afford it before they man-handle it.
I guess the conversation actually started:
"Can I see that bag?"
"Are you sure you can afford it, it is £30k?"
Throw in a bit of cross-lingual confusion, and results in Oprah storming off in a huff, probably with a "don't you know who I am"
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"I might continue:
" Honestly you're the first person I ever met who is so crassly dumb and insensitive as to even consider trashing such an unconscionable amount of good money on a piece of pretentious crap just because they can. "'"
You are Gerald Ratner and I claim my piece of tat
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| Quote EHW="EHW"Presumably, part of the the sales assistant's role is to stop time wasters handling the £30k bag, and as such they have to make sure that the person can actually afford it before they man-handle it.'"
My wife was very upset at the look the shop assistant gave her when she admitted that she couldn't actually afford the 400 euro handbag she'd fallen in love with.
My sympathies were entirely with the shop assistant.
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